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		<title>By: DeafChild &#187; Why Bother Saving Deaf Schools?</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeafChild &#187; Why Bother Saving Deaf Schools?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bother Saving Deaf Schools?   By Frank, June 26, 2009 2:08 pm   Source Link  Some of the Deaf children don’t do well in mainstreamed programs.  Often the regular [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everybody....

  Here is your information that I just mentioned earlier in my comment above here about any Deaf/Hard of Hearing &quot;youngest&quot; children have their own sign language that I found one of these websites that I would like to share it with you all.

  Look at this website....

http://deaf4all.com/?lang=gb&amp;sid=2387e6b2d37a68d785a577469a7be09849a31ac298473&amp;cat=4&amp;sub=113&amp;ql=view&amp;id=855  

This explained the same exactly things with my own 4 Deaf children and the others, too.  This means that I was not only one struggled with some other different kinds sign language till my all 4 Deaf children get older.... Whoa-whew!  We can always communicate!!

  I believe it goes the same as with any hearing infants or toddlers!  They have their own baby voices and repeatly coosing, etc.... Smile....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everybody&#8230;.</p>
<p>  Here is your information that I just mentioned earlier in my comment above here about any Deaf/Hard of Hearing &#8220;youngest&#8221; children have their own sign language that I found one of these websites that I would like to share it with you all.</p>
<p>  Look at this website&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://deaf4all.com/?lang=gb&#038;sid=2387e6b2d37a68d785a577469a7be09849a31ac298473&#038;cat=4&#038;sub=113&#038;ql=view&#038;id=855" rel="nofollow">http://deaf4all.com/?lang=gb&#038;sid=2387e6b2d37a68d785a577469a7be09849a31ac298473&#038;cat=4&#038;sub=113&#038;ql=view&#038;id=855</a>  </p>
<p>This explained the same exactly things with my own 4 Deaf children and the others, too.  This means that I was not only one struggled with some other different kinds sign language till my all 4 Deaf children get older&#8230;. Whoa-whew!  We can always communicate!!</p>
<p>  I believe it goes the same as with any hearing infants or toddlers!  They have their own baby voices and repeatly coosing, etc&#8230;. Smile&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everybody again,

   Please answer these questions below here for me and help me to understand your answers here....

   Why should we Deaf/Hard of Hearing people continually struggling with our &quot;wars&quot; to break our very strong barrier walls down for many years till we finally got our rights??  

   Why cannot we Deaf/Hard of Hearing people have our own &quot;ONE&quot; biggest switch where we can just turn the whole voices station (radios, tvs, and cell phones) down in this world to educate the hearing world about how our inner feelings?

   Are not hearing people trying to wipe us all Deaf/Hard of Hearing people out of this world with their own stuffs? 

   Where else would hearing allow us all Deaf/Hard of Hearing children to learn and getting much better education for their future sake?  Any benfits?

   How can any hearing people be able to communicate with our Deaf/Hard of Hearing &quot;youngest&quot; children since they some do have their own sign language that are differently than ASL and even than English?  How can any of these professional people such like these doctors, polices, judges and CPS be able to communicate with any of our Deaf/Hard of Hearing children if they not have any education?

  Honestly with everybody here, this is about my life here.... Of course, I can share my expernices in my own life that I been went through with so many different kind of very frustrated situations and I been on strikes with some groups in many years in the past to break the barriers of communication till by now on, I am about worn out?  Should I retired?  Not yet?  Should I keep my voices raise louder or what?


   Thanks for your time if you can answer any of my questions above here.... Please share your comments here to help me understand better....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everybody again,</p>
<p>   Please answer these questions below here for me and help me to understand your answers here&#8230;.</p>
<p>   Why should we Deaf/Hard of Hearing people continually struggling with our &#8220;wars&#8221; to break our very strong barrier walls down for many years till we finally got our rights??  </p>
<p>   Why cannot we Deaf/Hard of Hearing people have our own &#8220;ONE&#8221; biggest switch where we can just turn the whole voices station (radios, tvs, and cell phones) down in this world to educate the hearing world about how our inner feelings?</p>
<p>   Are not hearing people trying to wipe us all Deaf/Hard of Hearing people out of this world with their own stuffs? </p>
<p>   Where else would hearing allow us all Deaf/Hard of Hearing children to learn and getting much better education for their future sake?  Any benfits?</p>
<p>   How can any hearing people be able to communicate with our Deaf/Hard of Hearing &#8220;youngest&#8221; children since they some do have their own sign language that are differently than ASL and even than English?  How can any of these professional people such like these doctors, polices, judges and CPS be able to communicate with any of our Deaf/Hard of Hearing children if they not have any education?</p>
<p>  Honestly with everybody here, this is about my life here&#8230;. Of course, I can share my expernices in my own life that I been went through with so many different kind of very frustrated situations and I been on strikes with some groups in many years in the past to break the barriers of communication till by now on, I am about worn out?  Should I retired?  Not yet?  Should I keep my voices raise louder or what?</p>
<p>   Thanks for your time if you can answer any of my questions above here&#8230;. Please share your comments here to help me understand better&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph, I checked your post and it&#039;s terrific. Deaf Schools offer ample opportunities for socialization and leaderships for Deaf students that are too often non-existent or minimal in the mainstreamed programs. 

Lulu, you raised many good points there. You don&#039;t need to adjust any. Deaf students do have the right to Deaf schools. The hearing people have no idea how isolating mainstramed programs can be for Deaf students.. absolutely no clue at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph, I checked your post and it&#8217;s terrific. Deaf Schools offer ample opportunities for socialization and leaderships for Deaf students that are too often non-existent or minimal in the mainstreamed programs. </p>
<p>Lulu, you raised many good points there. You don&#8217;t need to adjust any. Deaf students do have the right to Deaf schools. The hearing people have no idea how isolating mainstramed programs can be for Deaf students.. absolutely no clue at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Lulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey everybody!!  Pardon me!  Wipe my eyes!!!!  I read this repeatly and puzzled me!!  I am really in very shock!!  Hey! Hey! Wait a minute!!  

      WAIT A MINUTE!!!! EEEKKKKKkkkk!!

Remember in any schools stated &quot;Not let any child behind!&quot;  What does this mean?  I believed this mean that &quot;any schools&quot; cannot be shut down for any reasons.... Am I right or wrong here?  

   &quot;Why this has to bother the Deaf Schools?&quot;

  Hey, There are so many public schools for the hearing in too many areas as why cannot it cut down on the hearing have too many that Deaf do not have.... Why this have to bother Deaf&#039;s needs?  Why hearing people who are trying to take over our DEAF&#039;s education??  Why hearing are forcing us to wear their jerk junks stuffs??  Does this means that hearing people who are trying to wipe us DEAF/Hard of Hearing people out of this world or what??

  We DEAF/Hard of Hearing people always do cherish our own ASL as our very openly communication, our very comfortable communication and understandable communication!!  Deaf schools are teaching all DEAF/Hard of Hearing students to learn both ASL and English then leave us our Deaf schools alone!!!!!!  We Deaf people are trying to improve our education for our Deaf children as we cannot let any of our DEAF/Hard of Hearing children behind!!

  Of course!!  I pray hard in one of these days that I could become a millionare!!  Then I can help and save all DEAF Schools!!  Sometimes, I wish this world can just twist to make many hearing people to understand our struggling life that we not need any more barriers!  We DEAF/Hard of Hearing had enough!!  Enough is enough!! 


  How do I get your comments here?  I need to know if any of you agreed with my comments or should I adjust on any?


Thanks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everybody!!  Pardon me!  Wipe my eyes!!!!  I read this repeatly and puzzled me!!  I am really in very shock!!  Hey! Hey! Wait a minute!!  </p>
<p>      WAIT A MINUTE!!!! EEEKKKKKkkkk!!</p>
<p>Remember in any schools stated &#8220;Not let any child behind!&#8221;  What does this mean?  I believed this mean that &#8220;any schools&#8221; cannot be shut down for any reasons&#8230;. Am I right or wrong here?  </p>
<p>   &#8220;Why this has to bother the Deaf Schools?&#8221;</p>
<p>  Hey, There are so many public schools for the hearing in too many areas as why cannot it cut down on the hearing have too many that Deaf do not have&#8230;. Why this have to bother Deaf&#8217;s needs?  Why hearing people who are trying to take over our DEAF&#8217;s education??  Why hearing are forcing us to wear their jerk junks stuffs??  Does this means that hearing people who are trying to wipe us DEAF/Hard of Hearing people out of this world or what??</p>
<p>  We DEAF/Hard of Hearing people always do cherish our own ASL as our very openly communication, our very comfortable communication and understandable communication!!  Deaf schools are teaching all DEAF/Hard of Hearing students to learn both ASL and English then leave us our Deaf schools alone!!!!!!  We Deaf people are trying to improve our education for our Deaf children as we cannot let any of our DEAF/Hard of Hearing children behind!!</p>
<p>  Of course!!  I pray hard in one of these days that I could become a millionare!!  Then I can help and save all DEAF Schools!!  Sometimes, I wish this world can just twist to make many hearing people to understand our struggling life that we not need any more barriers!  We DEAF/Hard of Hearing had enough!!  Enough is enough!! </p>
<p>  How do I get your comments here?  I need to know if any of you agreed with my comments or should I adjust on any?</p>
<p>Thanks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I posted a response to this on my current blog at http://manytribes.blogspot.com... would appreciate feedback!  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mainstreamed programs rarely have many other Deaf children, Deaf adults, or Deaf staff/faculty/administrator. This is important because students need models in how to communicate with each other. Not every student winds up with Invisibility Disease - some students are happy in mainstreamed programs (girls tend to do better than boys, possibly fitting more easily into gender roles. Boys tend to develop symptoms of frustration, especially if not given an outlet.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I posted a response to this on my current blog at <a href="http://manytribes.blogspot.com.." rel="nofollow">http://manytribes.blogspot.com..</a>. would appreciate feedback!  </p>
<blockquote><p>Mainstreamed programs rarely have many other Deaf children, Deaf adults, or Deaf staff/faculty/administrator. This is important because students need models in how to communicate with each other. Not every student winds up with Invisibility Disease &#8211; some students are happy in mainstreamed programs (girls tend to do better than boys, possibly fitting more easily into gender roles. Boys tend to develop symptoms of frustration, especially if not given an outlet.)</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This statement isn&#039;t meant to apply to ALL.  It&#039;s a general statement that I&#039;ve heard from the teachers of the Deaf schools. From what I&#039;ve observed, I agreed. There are parents who will insist that their children go to Deaf school and will use their resources to ensure that they do. I am talking about them, but the average parents. 

With the exception of FL, most states routinely place the Deaf students in the mainstreamed programs first. When the mainstreamed program doesn&#039;t work, then they opt for Deaf school next. The Deaf schools are not being given the same considerations as public education schools. Most parents want their children to be mainstreamed as they feel living in home is the best placement for their children. However, they are usually not informed of Deaf schools as a viable option and when the parents want to use that option, they are given a lot of resistance, unless the child has multiple handicaps that will make public education too costly. 

The resistance nowadays is much higher than in the past. It&#039;s not a coincidence that the majority of the children are mainstreamed. I&#039;ve heard stories from Deaf parents in specific states who have to jump through many loops before they can place their children in Deaf schools. 

Where did I get this statement that Deaf schools are the dumping grounds? From the teachers of Deaf schools frustrated with the low academic knowledge and minimal language skills from older Deaf students, products of mainstreamed programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This statement isn&#8217;t meant to apply to ALL.  It&#8217;s a general statement that I&#8217;ve heard from the teachers of the Deaf schools. From what I&#8217;ve observed, I agreed. There are parents who will insist that their children go to Deaf school and will use their resources to ensure that they do. I am talking about them, but the average parents. </p>
<p>With the exception of FL, most states routinely place the Deaf students in the mainstreamed programs first. When the mainstreamed program doesn&#8217;t work, then they opt for Deaf school next. The Deaf schools are not being given the same considerations as public education schools. Most parents want their children to be mainstreamed as they feel living in home is the best placement for their children. However, they are usually not informed of Deaf schools as a viable option and when the parents want to use that option, they are given a lot of resistance, unless the child has multiple handicaps that will make public education too costly. </p>
<p>The resistance nowadays is much higher than in the past. It&#8217;s not a coincidence that the majority of the children are mainstreamed. I&#8217;ve heard stories from Deaf parents in specific states who have to jump through many loops before they can place their children in Deaf schools. </p>
<p>Where did I get this statement that Deaf schools are the dumping grounds? From the teachers of Deaf schools frustrated with the low academic knowledge and minimal language skills from older Deaf students, products of mainstreamed programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Deaf schools are the dumping grounds for those who don’t fare well in the mainstreamed programs.&quot; You quoted that. This is NOT a fact. I have been raised in a full hearing family with full sign language privileges. My family have been supportive and encourage to have me attend each deaf school, not mainstreamed programs. Does that mean I don&#039;t fare well in the mainstreamed programs? Absolutely not. I fare well in the mainstreamed programs, however, deaf schools are great for exposure to ASL, interaction, communication, and sports. Any deaf school is NOT a dumping ground for those who does not fare well in the mainstreamed programs. 

I blame partially on the &quot;No Child Left Behind Act&quot; law that hurts the tests across the deaf schools. 

Other quote, &quot;More than half of my classmates who graduated in 1984 are living on SSD. Today time for change? I think so.&quot; So? Either deaf schools or mainstreamed programs have NOTHING to do with those who decide to go on SSD. I blame partially on the real world out there who would not hire deaf people on good salary. Many decided go on SSD, because it was comfortably more than what they earn in a low-life job that hearing put them with or go on entry level job. It sucks to have an entry level job. I think many Deaf would rather to be on SSD to get more comfortable money to cover their bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Deaf schools are the dumping grounds for those who don’t fare well in the mainstreamed programs.&#8221; You quoted that. This is NOT a fact. I have been raised in a full hearing family with full sign language privileges. My family have been supportive and encourage to have me attend each deaf school, not mainstreamed programs. Does that mean I don&#8217;t fare well in the mainstreamed programs? Absolutely not. I fare well in the mainstreamed programs, however, deaf schools are great for exposure to ASL, interaction, communication, and sports. Any deaf school is NOT a dumping ground for those who does not fare well in the mainstreamed programs. </p>
<p>I blame partially on the &#8220;No Child Left Behind Act&#8221; law that hurts the tests across the deaf schools. </p>
<p>Other quote, &#8220;More than half of my classmates who graduated in 1984 are living on SSD. Today time for change? I think so.&#8221; So? Either deaf schools or mainstreamed programs have NOTHING to do with those who decide to go on SSD. I blame partially on the real world out there who would not hire deaf people on good salary. Many decided go on SSD, because it was comfortably more than what they earn in a low-life job that hearing put them with or go on entry level job. It sucks to have an entry level job. I think many Deaf would rather to be on SSD to get more comfortable money to cover their bills.</p>
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		<title>By: bgmaron8</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one from a deaf school for 16 years. I graduated in 1984. I went back to visit my old school two years ago  and found out there are smaller number of deaf students today and just wonder what&#039;s benefit for them? Today is better technology and bright future for deaf students if go with mainstream. 
I am not against deaf schools but what are best for deaf children today .  More than half of my classmates who graduated in 1984 are  living  on SSD. 
Today time for change?  I think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one from a deaf school for 16 years. I graduated in 1984. I went back to visit my old school two years ago  and found out there are smaller number of deaf students today and just wonder what&#8217;s benefit for them? Today is better technology and bright future for deaf students if go with mainstream.<br />
I am not against deaf schools but what are best for deaf children today .  More than half of my classmates who graduated in 1984 are  living  on SSD.<br />
Today time for change?  I think so.</p>
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		<title>By: agreed with this DVTV</title>
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		<dc:creator>agreed with this DVTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.deafvideo.tv/video/watch/40935/

of course, Adain is RIGHT!</description>
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<p>of course, Adain is RIGHT!</p>
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