Comments on: DBC: Confusing Messages

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:14:04 +0000

Reason for hide agenda: Money. DBC is associated with the Deafhood Foundation. Free publicity on Deafhood in DBC leads to more Deafhood workshops benefiting Deafhood leaders financially.

By: DR Hocokan

DR Hocokan — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:17:11 +0000

I just viewed the interview with AG Bell President, Jay at http://deafanthology.blogspot.com/2008/07/da-vlog-interview-with-ag-bell.html and was surprised to see that most if not all Barb’s hot air (questions) never made it to the interview. Barb demonstrated so much hyper on the stage but in reality the interview was moderately managed. An interesting point to make. Jay with AG Bell said that DBC has never prepared a formal letter or seek formal meeting to introduce itself and seek dialogue with the organization. In short, DBC jumped the gun and prepared a costly rally ($35,000 or more) without allowing for due process first. All that expensive rally have in Milwaukee been done in vain. Deaf people who paid their expenses to attend did it in vain because DBC misled them. A simple formal letter of introduction to AG Bell would have led us to healthy dialogue with AG Bell and seek solutions. Now, how did it not happen and why?

Simple answers. Deafhood. Deafhood is more interested in making hearing people and AG Bell look bad in order to validate itself and to empower its movement. Second reason. Ella, John and their DBC Core Group only understand intimidation tactics because that is what Deafhood promotes. Evidently it backfired. This is an embarrassment.

By: DR Hocokan

DR Hocokan — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:04:49 +0000

I ran into another interesting VLOG / Blog at http://lenois.com/?p=117. It was rather interesting because first question generated wrong First Impression. Second and third and fourth question also generated wrong impressions. Nearly every questions demonstrated bashing efforts against AG Bell and oralism. See it for yourself. This video was taken and released by a private citizen. Not videotaped and released by DBC. I copied that tape in case they erase it later.

Many of the questions were tricky as if they thought it was AG Bell’s job to define things for us. Actually it is DBC’s job to define and present ASL / Bilingual facts. Barb finally asked the right question in the very end, proposing a summit between AG Bell, DBC and NAD. Just as soon as I thought they finally had some dignity David called AG Bell a Square Head. That’s right he signed it loud and clear on the video. Based on his degradatory comment at the end we can understand why AG Bell rejected an interview and will likely reject a summit.

By: Mishka Zena

Mishka Zena — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:34:46 +0000

Actually, no. You both are old enough to conduct yourself appropriate without restoring into a flame war. I am not your nanny, nor am I Dr H’s nanny.
As it turned out, I was away from the computer most of the time during this post.

If I were you, I would have ignored him and continued to discuss the topic. If I were you, I wouldn’t permit myself to be baited. Only you are responsible for your behavior, not me, not anyone else.

I recalled you got into a flaming war with another poster last summer, resulting in me putting the blog in moderation.

Please address to the topic, from now on. I have given you enough warnings already.

By: theblues

theblues — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:28:38 +0000

Theblues, I also gave YOU the platform, too. You and Dr H decided to get involved into a mudslinging contest, not me. You both decided to get personal, instead of addressing to the topic, despite my requests.

I tried to stick to the topic. Please go back and read it again- I kept asking questions and gave ideals,i.e. perhaps a meeting between the two sides etc..

It was “dr. Hokokan ” xxxxxx me time after time…you should have step in and told him not to do that…but instead you did NOTHING.

By: Mishka Zena

Mishka Zena — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:27:40 +0000

Theblues, I repeatedly requested for NO personal remarks for the other commenters and you repeatedly disregarded my request.

Hence your comment was deleted because you are trying to incite another flame war. You and Dr H already hijacked my blog and abused it for your personal vendetta against each other, ruining a beautiful dialogue for others to participate.

Participation is a privilege not to be abused.

Thank you

By: theblues

theblues — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:22:30 +0000

mymymy…I did not say anythging offensive in my last response. Yet-you delete most of my post.

It’s really A sad day.

By: theblues

theblues — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:18:41 +0000

Yes-

By: Mishka Zena

Mishka Zena — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:27:15 +0000

You both know that I try not to moderate the comment section. How it goes depends on the commenters.

I support the freedom of expression… as long as people address to the topic, whether I agree with them or not.

It happens that I do agree about the media sending conflicting messages about audism and cochlear implants when the conference is on bilingualism.

At least two other people did agree with him about the internal dynamics of DBC, both having been core members of DBC, too. So, in this aspect, he is not alone.

All I am asking is consistency.

By: theblues

theblues — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:43:37 +0000

I have to agree with what Raphael has stated.

I thought you were a reputable ,honest person. All “Dr. Hokokan”….. YOU are letting him enjoy a platform

the blues.