Comments on: Sweet Nothing in My Ear: Thumb Up http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:35:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Raphael J. St. Johns http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7496 Raphael J. St. Johns Tue, 06 May 2008 19:40:48 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7496 The lats paragragh should have been: It gives out alot of mis-information and feeds into the terrible myths about Deaf people. Sorry about my typos. Raphael J. St. Johns The lats paragragh should have been:

It gives out alot of mis-information and feeds into the terrible myths about Deaf people.

Sorry about my typos.

Raphael J. St. Johns

]]> By: Raphael J. St. Johns http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7495 Raphael J. St. Johns Tue, 06 May 2008 19:38:18 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7495 You ask the wrong question- and really you are throwing this discuession out to another direction-if you really want an answer to that question. My points are about this movie-and the social implications for the cultural Deaf. Yes-it is garbage. And you made my point. People get their impressions from movies, books, TV programs, etc. It's very important -I would use the word "fundamentally"- to use facts, not myths like this movie used to give the correct impressions about the culturally Deaf. This movie, for the most part, does not do that. It gives out of mis-information and feeds into the terrible myths about Deaf poeple. Raphael J. St. Johns You ask the wrong question- and really you are throwing this discuession out to another direction-if you really want an answer to that question.

My points are about this movie-and the social implications for the cultural Deaf.

Yes-it is garbage. And you made my point. People get their impressions from movies, books, TV programs, etc.

It’s very important -I would use the word “fundamentally”- to use facts, not myths like this movie used to give the correct impressions about the culturally Deaf.

This movie, for the most part, does not do that.

It gives out of mis-information and feeds into the terrible myths about Deaf poeple.

Raphael J. St. Johns

]]> By: Stanelle http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7494 Stanelle Tue, 06 May 2008 17:56:25 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7494 I loved the fact that this movie portrayed Deaf people as a people, who have their own language and the right to make their own choices and the ability to make those choices!! As to the garbage about "all Deaf only having the ability to "read and write on a fourth grade level,..".....what are you doing,.on a constructive basis in your own part of the world,..both Deaf and hearing,..to IMPROVE the EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES FOR DEAF CHILDREN,..educate Hearing parents of Deaf children to the fact that the Deaf DO have their own viable language and culture,..and improving the opportunies of those Deaf around you and with whom you associate? Meself,..I am visiting blogs like Mishka's blog and using those blogs to educate college age Hearing kids to the fact that the Deaf are an abused and ignored minority in some places! Ideas and people's attitudes can be changed,..if we work in positive ways to changes those attitudes!! I loved the fact that this movie portrayed Deaf people as a people, who have their own language and the right to make their own choices and the ability to make those choices!!

As to the garbage about “all Deaf only having the ability to “read and write on a fourth grade level,..”…..what are you doing,.on a constructive basis in your own part of the world,..both Deaf and hearing,..to IMPROVE the EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES FOR DEAF CHILDREN,..educate Hearing parents of Deaf children to the fact that the Deaf DO have their own viable language and culture,..and improving the opportunies of those Deaf around you and with whom you associate?

Meself,..I am visiting blogs like Mishka’s blog and using those blogs to educate college age Hearing kids to the fact that the Deaf are an abused and ignored minority in some places!

Ideas and people’s attitudes can be changed,..if we work in positive ways to changes those attitudes!!

]]> By: Raphael J. St. Johns http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7452 Raphael J. St. Johns Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:20:41 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7452 Oh-so you love all bad sterotyping that the movie does about Deaf People? NO where does it have anything about a succeesful Culteral Deaf person. During the court hearing,for example, the lawyer was able to bring out that lie that all Deaf people are reading at a secound grade level-without any mentioned that A LOT of Deaf people are MD's, lawyers, writers, etc. Thus, feeding the negative impression that Deaf people are dumb. Is this what you love about this movie? Oh-so you love all bad sterotyping that the movie does about Deaf People?

NO where does it have anything about a succeesful Culteral Deaf person. During the court hearing,for example, the lawyer was able to bring out that lie that all Deaf people are reading at a secound grade level-without any mentioned that A LOT of Deaf people are MD’s, lawyers, writers, etc. Thus, feeding the negative impression that Deaf people are dumb.

Is this what you love about this movie?

]]> By: Albert W http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7492 Albert W Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:10:06 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7492 I am really surprised to hear people not happy with the movie, Sweet Nothing in My Hear. I love it. I enjoy every second. I have watched it three times already. The actors and actresses are great. The lines are great. Of course, we all wish some lines were changed. But it is a 2 hours movie. What do you expect from the director? He tried his best to balance both sides in a very short time (1.5 hour w/commerical). MM did an excellent job. I have seen all her shows / movies. She is the best in that movie. In that movie, I feel she is one of us. I can identify her. I love her more and more after Dancing with the Stars. She PAH is our Deaf celebrity after Bernard Bragg. I am proud of her. Thanks MZ for allowing to hear both sides. I am really pleased with it in spite of Hallmarks ads at the end. CI people were smart to install their ads. Where were the Deaf business people? Their fault... I will buy several movies plus LOVE IS NEVER SILENT. I have the tape from the TV. Now I will have DVD soon. Hurrah!! Our lives are better each year!!! Too bad I am getting older but I am enjoying my time now. I am really surprised to hear people not happy with the movie, Sweet Nothing in My Hear. I love it. I enjoy every second. I have watched it three times already. The actors and actresses are great. The lines are great. Of course, we all wish some lines were changed. But it is a 2 hours movie. What do you expect from the director? He tried his best to balance both sides in a very short time (1.5 hour w/commerical). MM did an excellent job. I have seen all her shows / movies. She is the best in that movie. In that movie, I feel she is one of us. I can identify her. I love her more and more after Dancing with the Stars. She PAH is our Deaf celebrity after Bernard Bragg. I am proud of her. Thanks MZ for allowing to hear both sides. I am really pleased with it in spite of Hallmarks ads at the end. CI people were smart to install their ads. Where were the Deaf business people? Their fault… I will buy several movies plus LOVE IS NEVER SILENT. I have the tape from the TV. Now I will have DVD soon. Hurrah!! Our lives are better each year!!! Too bad I am getting older but I am enjoying my time now.

]]> By: egbertpress http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7493 egbertpress Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:10:06 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7493 AGBell learned their lesson about their mistake regarding about the letter to Pepsi. So, a lesson learned, they decided to change their strategy and maybe did this effort to plug in this very last effort to mislead the public again about "Learning to Hear" article. NAD or Gallaudet should demand equal side of information about ASL. But as usual, AGBell is tooooooooo powerful with loads of money and NAD just unable to show its true colors for the Deaf community. AGBell learned their lesson about their mistake regarding about the letter to Pepsi. So, a lesson learned, they decided to change their strategy and maybe did this effort to plug in this very last effort to mislead the public again about “Learning to Hear” article.

NAD or Gallaudet should demand equal side of information about ASL.

But as usual, AGBell is tooooooooo powerful with loads of money and NAD just unable to show its true colors for the Deaf community.

]]> By: Diane http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7451 Diane Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:25:20 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7451 That's why IMO- The Hallmark Magazine adds it at the end to send out the strong message of CI. It is like a *drop the bomb* to us, the Deaf community. I wish NAD or even Gallaudet pays the advertisement to add the ASL articles. I am sure AGB, Hallmark, or CI organization has plenty money to pay the CI article story for the show. Who knows. That’s why IMO- The Hallmark Magazine adds it at the end to send out the strong message of CI. It is like a *drop the bomb* to us, the Deaf community. I wish NAD or even Gallaudet pays the advertisement to add the ASL articles. I am sure AGB, Hallmark, or CI organization has plenty money to pay the CI article story for the show. Who knows.

]]> By: jean http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7450 jean Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:56:00 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7450 Elizabeth, It is funny that you found out about that in Hallmark Magazine. Good sleuth! I also just so happened to learn that Congress -- are you ready? -- has a committee called "Health Hearing Committee. Guess who is a member of the said committee? HILLARY RODMAN CLINTON, the projected winner of the Democratic Pennsylvania! Elizabeth,

It is funny that you found out about that in Hallmark Magazine. Good sleuth! I also just
so happened to learn that Congress — are
you ready? — has a committee called “Health
Hearing Committee. Guess who is a member of
the said committee? HILLARY RODMAN CLINTON,
the projected winner of the Democratic Pennsylvania!

]]> By: Mishka Zena http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7449 Mishka Zena Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:36:47 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7449 I found out the promotion was for an cochlear implant article in Hallmark Magazine I found out the promotion was for an cochlear implant article in Hallmark Magazine

]]> By: ericacamp http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/comment-page-2/#comment-7413 ericacamp Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:29:37 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2008/04/21/sweet-nothing-in-the-ears-thumb-up/#comment-7413 Just a mom to three boys: I do agree with you that your son is acquiring language and his success is something to be applauded. And I think CI's are great for what they are able to accomplish. I also agree with the parents' role in either method as well is crucial. I did not mean to judge any parents who choose the CI AVT method and decide not to sign, what I am concerned is that perhaps they are making acquiring language more artificial and manufactured through a machine than naturally and effortlessly. You cannot claim that your child's listening and speaking acquisitions are effortless... And I would not want my child to be working hard to do something that could be so natural and with ease...Something that all humans should be able to do with ease....Communicate. I do not want to ignore the successes of the CI but going back to the movie, they misrepresented what it can accomplish and made it seem like a cure. I would not want my child to be trained to function as a "hearing" person and the moment their CI battery dies they are full blown deaf. Also, one never knows from the moment of implantation if it will be successful for their child, so putting all your eggs in one basket is a chance I am not willing to take with my child's brain development. Why not have CI and signing? Babies learn multiple languages in Europe, so why not sign and talk? Why are hearing parents against signing? This is not the 1800's where signing was looked upon as freaky or not normal. Today, most hearing people often are curious about signing and think it is quite interesting to watch. I teach ASL and all my classes are full of hearing people who are interested in the language so I do not understand what the fear of signing to their deaf child comes from...I would much rather do the extra work myself of learning ASL to make my child's language acquisiton easier for him/her, than the other way around. Just a mom to three boys:
I do agree with you that your son is acquiring language and his success is something to be applauded. And I think CI’s are great for what they are able to accomplish. I also agree with the parents’ role in either method as well is crucial. I did not mean to judge any parents who choose the CI AVT method and decide not to sign, what I am concerned is that perhaps they are making acquiring language more artificial and manufactured through a machine than naturally and effortlessly. You cannot claim that your child’s listening and speaking acquisitions are effortless… And I would not want my child to be working hard to do something that could be so natural and with ease…Something that all humans should be able to do with ease….Communicate. I do not want to ignore the successes of the CI but going back to the movie, they misrepresented what it can accomplish and made it seem like a cure. I would not want my child to be trained to function as a “hearing” person and the moment their CI battery dies they are full blown deaf.
Also, one never knows from the moment of implantation if it will be successful for their child, so putting all your eggs in one basket is a chance I am not willing to take with my child’s brain development. Why not have CI and signing? Babies learn multiple languages in Europe, so why not sign and talk? Why are hearing parents against signing? This is not the 1800′s where signing was looked upon as freaky or not normal. Today, most hearing people often are curious about signing and think it is quite interesting to watch. I teach ASL and all my classes are full of hearing people who are interested in the language so I do not understand what the fear of signing to their deaf child comes from…I would much rather do the extra work myself of learning ASL to make my child’s language acquisiton easier for him/her, than the other way around.

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