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		<title>By: Ken Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/03/31/the-cold-case-thumb-down/comment-page-2/#comment-7225</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 06:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The fact that a DEAF person would KILL someone for having the implant; highly impossible! (Unless it was a crime of passion, which the plot failed to show).&quot;

The show would have ended better if it was shown that the murderer was charges with Second Degree manslaughter (a clear Crime of Passion) or even a lesser charge (as would be the case if it was real).

What is really GLARING is the FACTUAL INACCURACIES about CIs presented in the show.  They stated, quite rightly, in the show, that CIs aren&#039;t a &quot;CURE&quot; for Deafness.

Far from it.  CI hearing is NOT natural hearing.  (Any Late-Deafened person who gets a CI can tell you that!!!)  It takes MONTHS of TRAINING to adjust to CIs.  You have to RE-LEARN how to hear.

But &quot;Andy&quot; supposedly was given a CI in ONE DAY, then the next day he had enough hearing to be able to appreciate playing the piano, as he did when he was 7 years old.

Any CI candidate would have to wait WEEKS, maybe MONTHS for the Surgery.  The CI wouldn&#039;t be turned on that day or the next, but usually two weeks or more before the surgery healed. Even so, &quot;Andy&quot; wouldn&#039;t recognize the sounds from his CI as piano for weeks after his CI was turned on.

&quot;Cold Case&quot; said, correctly that CIs weren&#039;t a &quot;Cure&quot; for Deafness, then portrayed it like he was implanted in one day, then had his previous hearing restored by the next day.  Preposterous.

These crime drama shows thrive on having everyone be a suspect.  &quot;Law and Order&quot; was WAY worse, portraying EVERY Deaf person as a suspect, nearly convicting them until proven INNOCENT.  But that is the way the &quot;Law and Order&quot; franchise works.

I think &quot;Cold Case&quot; brought up a lot of Deaf issues that Hearing people would never consider.  But it would be a better conclusion to show the crime was just one second of frustration instead of some systematic hatred endemic within the Deaf Community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The fact that a DEAF person would KILL someone for having the implant; highly impossible! (Unless it was a crime of passion, which the plot failed to show).&#8221;</p>
<p>The show would have ended better if it was shown that the murderer was charges with Second Degree manslaughter (a clear Crime of Passion) or even a lesser charge (as would be the case if it was real).</p>
<p>What is really GLARING is the FACTUAL INACCURACIES about CIs presented in the show.  They stated, quite rightly, in the show, that CIs aren&#8217;t a &#8220;CURE&#8221; for Deafness.</p>
<p>Far from it.  CI hearing is NOT natural hearing.  (Any Late-Deafened person who gets a CI can tell you that!!!)  It takes MONTHS of TRAINING to adjust to CIs.  You have to RE-LEARN how to hear.</p>
<p>But &#8220;Andy&#8221; supposedly was given a CI in ONE DAY, then the next day he had enough hearing to be able to appreciate playing the piano, as he did when he was 7 years old.</p>
<p>Any CI candidate would have to wait WEEKS, maybe MONTHS for the Surgery.  The CI wouldn&#8217;t be turned on that day or the next, but usually two weeks or more before the surgery healed. Even so, &#8220;Andy&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t recognize the sounds from his CI as piano for weeks after his CI was turned on.</p>
<p>&#8220;Cold Case&#8221; said, correctly that CIs weren&#8217;t a &#8220;Cure&#8221; for Deafness, then portrayed it like he was implanted in one day, then had his previous hearing restored by the next day.  Preposterous.</p>
<p>These crime drama shows thrive on having everyone be a suspect.  &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; was WAY worse, portraying EVERY Deaf person as a suspect, nearly convicting them until proven INNOCENT.  But that is the way the &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; franchise works.</p>
<p>I think &#8220;Cold Case&#8221; brought up a lot of Deaf issues that Hearing people would never consider.  But it would be a better conclusion to show the crime was just one second of frustration instead of some systematic hatred endemic within the Deaf Community.</p>
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		<title>By: Grayce</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/03/31/the-cold-case-thumb-down/comment-page-2/#comment-7226</link>
		<dc:creator>Grayce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to like this show (it is one of my favorites) - and in the beginning, I thought it was going to be great... (really showing the ignorance of the hearing society in the form of the homicide detective), but it disappointed instead.

A brief list of just a few objectionable items...

1. Use of principal as interpreter (and not a good one at that)
2. Principal spouting Deaf Culture &#039;rules&#039; and yet not interpreting everything (because &#039;they&#039; can read lips)
3. Police detectives going to the house of parents WITHOUT bringing an interpreter
4. The hearing &#039;girl-friend&#039; trying to convince the deaf student he wouldn&#039;t be whole without hearing his music again

Darn... could have been so good!

Grayce</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to like this show (it is one of my favorites) &#8211; and in the beginning, I thought it was going to be great&#8230; (really showing the ignorance of the hearing society in the form of the homicide detective), but it disappointed instead.</p>
<p>A brief list of just a few objectionable items&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Use of principal as interpreter (and not a good one at that)<br />
2. Principal spouting Deaf Culture &#8216;rules&#8217; and yet not interpreting everything (because &#8216;they&#8217; can read lips)<br />
3. Police detectives going to the house of parents WITHOUT bringing an interpreter<br />
4. The hearing &#8216;girl-friend&#8217; trying to convince the deaf student he wouldn&#8217;t be whole without hearing his music again</p>
<p>Darn&#8230; could have been so good!</p>
<p>Grayce</p>
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		<title>By: Hetty</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/03/31/the-cold-case-thumb-down/comment-page-2/#comment-7223</link>
		<dc:creator>Hetty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

Like others, I&#039;m disappointed.  I watched it with my CODA son, 18 years old.  He didn&#039;t think too much of it too.  Just submitted my comments to CBS.

I watched it because the main character is a CSDR graduate (am currently teaching there).  He stopped by today (at CSDR)..it was good seeing him.  He was also casted as Dummy Hoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>Like others, I&#8217;m disappointed.  I watched it with my CODA son, 18 years old.  He didn&#8217;t think too much of it too.  Just submitted my comments to CBS.</p>
<p>I watched it because the main character is a CSDR graduate (am currently teaching there).  He stopped by today (at CSDR)..it was good seeing him.  He was also casted as Dummy Hoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Gretta Conroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gretta Conroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a hearing ASL student and watched this program on Sunday night without feeling most of the extreme negative responses I saw here. Perhaps you could chalk it up to my naivite. So I am greatful to see these responses because I take it as part of my learning experience in understanding the deaf community. However, from my point of view I didn&#039;t see this particular episode as damaging. I don&#039;t mean to offend but the sad truth is that many hearing people have are not even aware that there is such a thing as the deaf community at all and have never even heard the term cochlear implant. They are not aware of the fact that ASL is an actual language  rather than a mere manual interpretation of English. And when they think od deafness( that is if they think of it at all) they consider the people to be terribly disabled. So with this in mind the representation of the deaf students was positive.

I realize there were many inaccuracies in this program. But I think you have to consider the source. This is a television drama which usually means an overly melodramatic presentation full of one dimensional sterotypes. I&#039;ve watched other Cold Case episodes and feel that most of them deal with the subject matter in this way. For a true understanding of any group of people I hope people would have more sense than to resort to Cold Case or any other television series.

I always tend to look at what&#039;s positive about something rather than what&#039;s negative. And to me, bringing the fact that there even is a deaf community to the general public&#039;s attention is better than not. I also thought the fact that the Deaf students&#039; signing was pretty accurate was a positive thing. Two hearing friends of mine that saw the program appreciated it just for these reasons.

I remember some of the first representations of African Americans I saw on prime time tv ....in the real early days they wouldn&#039;t even use African Americans but Whites painted in black face. And certainly the charicatures in most shows had no relation to the real lives of African Americans. But with time this misrepresentation has lessened. I suspect the same will happen as time goes on with the representation of the deaf community as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a hearing ASL student and watched this program on Sunday night without feeling most of the extreme negative responses I saw here. Perhaps you could chalk it up to my naivite. So I am greatful to see these responses because I take it as part of my learning experience in understanding the deaf community. However, from my point of view I didn&#8217;t see this particular episode as damaging. I don&#8217;t mean to offend but the sad truth is that many hearing people have are not even aware that there is such a thing as the deaf community at all and have never even heard the term cochlear implant. They are not aware of the fact that ASL is an actual language  rather than a mere manual interpretation of English. And when they think od deafness( that is if they think of it at all) they consider the people to be terribly disabled. So with this in mind the representation of the deaf students was positive.</p>
<p>I realize there were many inaccuracies in this program. But I think you have to consider the source. This is a television drama which usually means an overly melodramatic presentation full of one dimensional sterotypes. I&#8217;ve watched other Cold Case episodes and feel that most of them deal with the subject matter in this way. For a true understanding of any group of people I hope people would have more sense than to resort to Cold Case or any other television series.</p>
<p>I always tend to look at what&#8217;s positive about something rather than what&#8217;s negative. And to me, bringing the fact that there even is a deaf community to the general public&#8217;s attention is better than not. I also thought the fact that the Deaf students&#8217; signing was pretty accurate was a positive thing. Two hearing friends of mine that saw the program appreciated it just for these reasons.</p>
<p>I remember some of the first representations of African Americans I saw on prime time tv &#8230;.in the real early days they wouldn&#8217;t even use African Americans but Whites painted in black face. And certainly the charicatures in most shows had no relation to the real lives of African Americans. But with time this misrepresentation has lessened. I suspect the same will happen as time goes on with the representation of the deaf community as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mishka Zena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is disappointing to see some people pooh-poohing about the negative stereotyping of a linguistic minority. Apparently they do not care about the mischaracterizations and the persistent negative portrayal of a community profoundly affecting people&#039;s perception of that culture.  Despite one person&#039;s assertions, it is very important that lay people people understand Deaf people, its cultural and language to avoid stigmatizing the minority group and the perpetuation of harmful misconceptions. Not only do the workers of law and order, but also lay people, including people working in the medical field, teachers, firemen, business owners, store personnel, and neighbors, etc., need to understand that lipreading isn&#039;t the best way to communicate for many Deaf people and importance of interpreters to avoid conflict of interests and high interpreting quality.

In the old days, we were taught that Native Americans are savages and that African Americans are cast as monkeys. Even though these were fictional, these stereotypes did color our perception of these minorities negatively in many ways, affecting their ability to acquire good paying jobs, finding good places to live, and promoting active discrimination.  Only after they protested about these systematic biases, were the negative stereotypes reduced. As a result, the perceptions of Americans toward these minority groups have become more postive.

Remember the days when Hollywood promoted the use of illegal drugs in 1980&#039;s? Everybody thought that was so cool. However, as the addiction of illegal drugs spiraled out of control, Hollywood was reprimanded for its irresponsibility to the society and it had ceased its glorification of illegal acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is disappointing to see some people pooh-poohing about the negative stereotyping of a linguistic minority. Apparently they do not care about the mischaracterizations and the persistent negative portrayal of a community profoundly affecting people&#8217;s perception of that culture.  Despite one person&#8217;s assertions, it is very important that lay people people understand Deaf people, its cultural and language to avoid stigmatizing the minority group and the perpetuation of harmful misconceptions. Not only do the workers of law and order, but also lay people, including people working in the medical field, teachers, firemen, business owners, store personnel, and neighbors, etc., need to understand that lipreading isn&#8217;t the best way to communicate for many Deaf people and importance of interpreters to avoid conflict of interests and high interpreting quality.</p>
<p>In the old days, we were taught that Native Americans are savages and that African Americans are cast as monkeys. Even though these were fictional, these stereotypes did color our perception of these minorities negatively in many ways, affecting their ability to acquire good paying jobs, finding good places to live, and promoting active discrimination.  Only after they protested about these systematic biases, were the negative stereotypes reduced. As a result, the perceptions of Americans toward these minority groups have become more postive.</p>
<p>Remember the days when Hollywood promoted the use of illegal drugs in 1980&#8217;s? Everybody thought that was so cool. However, as the addiction of illegal drugs spiraled out of control, Hollywood was reprimanded for its irresponsibility to the society and it had ceased its glorification of illegal acts.</p>
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		<title>By: deb ann</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/03/31/the-cold-case-thumb-down/comment-page-2/#comment-7221</link>
		<dc:creator>deb ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Barb for writing the letter and
thank you, Mishkazena for this post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Barb for writing the letter and<br />
thank you, Mishkazena for this post!</p>
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		<title>By: Cold Case Critic</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/03/31/the-cold-case-thumb-down/comment-page-2/#comment-7220</link>
		<dc:creator>Cold Case Critic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have deaf friends who have CI&#039;s. So what! Am I jealous? ROFLMAO! It&#039;s their right and you respect their right to have a CI. Why should I decide the CI is good or bad for my friends? Silly TV writers and producers need to get their information straight and present their story the proper way. We don&#039;t need any more CI murders and it&#039;s getting old and boring already. Stop this CI madness!

Let&#039;s move on to better stories and learn more about deaf people and deaf culture!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have deaf friends who have CI&#8217;s. So what! Am I jealous? ROFLMAO! It&#8217;s their right and you respect their right to have a CI. Why should I decide the CI is good or bad for my friends? Silly TV writers and producers need to get their information straight and present their story the proper way. We don&#8217;t need any more CI murders and it&#8217;s getting old and boring already. Stop this CI madness!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s move on to better stories and learn more about deaf people and deaf culture!</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say i was disgusted, AGAIN, by the portryal of deaf people as angry, classist, and just plain negative on COLD CASE last night.  Are there angry deaf people out there?  Of course.  but in a year and a half we have had THREE prime time shows; COLD CASE, Law and Order, and don`t forget CSI:NY, where a deaf person has murdered another person because of CI issues.  Have deaf people murdered before? Yes. So why can`t they just portray a person who murders and happens to be deaf!?   IF it were only 1 show where this crazy, CI mania was happening i would say ok, WHATEVER.  But THREE shows??!!

           STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say i was disgusted, AGAIN, by the portryal of deaf people as angry, classist, and just plain negative on COLD CASE last night.  Are there angry deaf people out there?  Of course.  but in a year and a half we have had THREE prime time shows; COLD CASE, Law and Order, and don`t forget CSI:NY, where a deaf person has murdered another person because of CI issues.  Have deaf people murdered before? Yes. So why can`t they just portray a person who murders and happens to be deaf!?   IF it were only 1 show where this crazy, CI mania was happening i would say ok, WHATEVER.  But THREE shows??!!</p>
<p>           STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Meow-meow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meow-meow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember The Sound and Fury? Thier families got divided because of CI issues....There are some deaf people who are TOTALLY against CI and some deaf people are support for CI, do you call them undivided or divided?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember The Sound and Fury? Thier families got divided because of CI issues&#8230;.There are some deaf people who are TOTALLY against CI and some deaf people are support for CI, do you call them undivided or divided?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Roehm</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/03/31/the-cold-case-thumb-down/comment-page-2/#comment-7217</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Roehm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy to be excluded from the negative perceptions.  Now the ASL society gets it&#039;s scourge from hollywood these days.

Look at how you guys respond to the episode it&#039;s humorous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy to be excluded from the negative perceptions.  Now the ASL society gets it&#8217;s scourge from hollywood these days.</p>
<p>Look at how you guys respond to the episode it&#8217;s humorous!</p>
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