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		<title>By: Mishka Zena &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NCSD Suspends 7 Students and 5 Staff Members</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NCSD Suspends 7 Students and 5 Staff Members</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 04:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mishka Zena &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Foiled NCSD Protest On News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Foiled NCSD Protest On News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mishka Zena Endless Pondering       &#171; NCSD Students&#8217; Civil Rights Violated [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fight for ncsd's deaf children</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/25/ncsd-students-civil-rights-violated/comment-page-1/#comment-6574</link>
		<dc:creator>fight for ncsd's deaf children</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s not about cafeteria food and athletics.
The problems at the North Carolina School for the Deaf are more serious than that....&quot;

Here&#039;s the latest article in Morganton about the attempted protest. To see the full article, go to this link:

www.morganton.com

Under &quot;Today&#039;s News&quot; you will see &quot;NCSD Suspends Staff/Students&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s not about cafeteria food and athletics.<br />
The problems at the North Carolina School for the Deaf are more serious than that&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the latest article in Morganton about the attempted protest. To see the full article, go to this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.morganton.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.morganton.com</a></p>
<p>Under &#8220;Today&#8217;s News&#8221; you will see &#8220;NCSD Suspends Staff/Students&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: fight for ncsd's deaf children</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/25/ncsd-students-civil-rights-violated/comment-page-1/#comment-6573</link>
		<dc:creator>fight for ncsd's deaf children</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s not about cafeteria food and athletics.
The problems at the North Carolina School for the Deaf are more serious than that....&quot;

For the latest article in Morganton about the attempted protest, go to this link:

http://www.morganton.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MNH/MGArticle/MNH_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173354758186&amp;path=%21frontpage</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s not about cafeteria food and athletics.<br />
The problems at the North Carolina School for the Deaf are more serious than that&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the latest article in Morganton about the attempted protest, go to this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.morganton.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MNH/MGArticle/MNH_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173354758186&amp;path=%21frontpage" rel="nofollow">http://www.morganton.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MNH/MGArticle/MNH_BasicArticle&amp;c=MGArticle&amp;cid=1173354758186&amp;path=%21frontpage</a></p>
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		<title>By: fight for ncsd's deaf children</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/25/ncsd-students-civil-rights-violated/comment-page-1/#comment-6572</link>
		<dc:creator>fight for ncsd's deaf children</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, for starters, everyone knows that ncsd is controlled by audism. The hearing admin don&#039;t have a clue what audism is. Even hearing staff who support deaf are oppressed too.

Interpreters have a big job at ncsd, why? Because there are many people in administration who cannot sign well. The newspaper says LL takes classes. Ha Ha! Try signing other than &quot;how are you?&quot; with her! And that will soon be 4 years of classes!

How can you have quality education with teachers who are hired without any knowledge of sign language AND who are NOT required to go to sign language classes?? The children suffer because they don&#039;t understand the teachers.

People in the community know that they don&#039;t see ncsd students walking around in the community without a bus there. Older students can&#039;t even walk across the street to go to Pizza Hut, even with a light and crosswalk installed.

If you really want to help the students who tried to protest, contact any high school students at other deaf schools in the southeast or MSSD. They all know how to contact each other. Try to contact them and ask them for an interview. See what you learn.

People in the community don&#039;t know alot, but if you can get to the students, I&#039;m sure they will be happy to express their concerns. Please help ncsd&#039;s students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, for starters, everyone knows that ncsd is controlled by audism. The hearing admin don&#8217;t have a clue what audism is. Even hearing staff who support deaf are oppressed too.</p>
<p>Interpreters have a big job at ncsd, why? Because there are many people in administration who cannot sign well. The newspaper says LL takes classes. Ha Ha! Try signing other than &#8220;how are you?&#8221; with her! And that will soon be 4 years of classes!</p>
<p>How can you have quality education with teachers who are hired without any knowledge of sign language AND who are NOT required to go to sign language classes?? The children suffer because they don&#8217;t understand the teachers.</p>
<p>People in the community know that they don&#8217;t see ncsd students walking around in the community without a bus there. Older students can&#8217;t even walk across the street to go to Pizza Hut, even with a light and crosswalk installed.</p>
<p>If you really want to help the students who tried to protest, contact any high school students at other deaf schools in the southeast or MSSD. They all know how to contact each other. Try to contact them and ask them for an interview. See what you learn.</p>
<p>People in the community don&#8217;t know alot, but if you can get to the students, I&#8217;m sure they will be happy to express their concerns. Please help ncsd&#8217;s students.</p>
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		<title>By: A former NCSDer'</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/25/ncsd-students-civil-rights-violated/comment-page-1/#comment-6571</link>
		<dc:creator>A former NCSDer'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the &quot;Way deeper&quot; post..

  As it would seem, a strong rank of apathy are among the North Carolina alums, parents and staffers and yes, we need to combat that in North Carolina and many places all over the country..  As for the North Carolina Deaf &quot;leaders&quot;, it may be due to the fact so many of them have &quot;died&quot; trying and/or fighting..

  This is something that has been happening for over 10 years, the former Superintendents as in Gary Mowl and Kent Mann have discovered that fighting against the mighty North Carolina Political machine are well, truthfully career killers..

  This woman, L.L. is obviously an appointee of the Mighty NC Political machine again and will the state be willing to push her aside due to the weak rallying cries of the Carolina Deaf population ?

  Remains to be seen...., I do feel that the KEY to forcing changes at NCSD belong to the Students and their Parents..  Deaf or Hearing, they are still the KEY to defeating this whole thing.., if only they can be heard all the way over to Raleigh...

  The &quot;problems that goes way deeper&quot; as I&#039;ve heard from several close contact of long time staffers at NCSD, are that there are instances of Incident Reports being torn up, not resolved nor reported..  Also with the Deaf staff at NCSD receiving more dire consequences for improper actions, failures and oversights more than their Hearing counterparts..
  So it is again something deeper than just that L.L. and her staffers, the Dean of Students, Jody Self, Business manager and most of the Administration being unable to sign or communicate with the students they are there to help, to nurture and to educate, to begin with...

  Again, ANY attention on this pressing issue, will fall on &quot;deaf&quot; ears at the state capitol unless the Students and their parents speak up, raise a STINK about these issues..

Again it is a matter of changing what others view us as, DPN 1 and 2 has raised consciousness on these issues on a national level but it is up to us, DEAF to keep pushing that trend further, exposing other ignorants (especially our country&#039;s governments starting with local venues and all the way up to our congress) to what we are and what we can do..

Thoughts and prayers are with my fellow North Carolinan&#039;s...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the &#8220;Way deeper&#8221; post..</p>
<p>  As it would seem, a strong rank of apathy are among the North Carolina alums, parents and staffers and yes, we need to combat that in North Carolina and many places all over the country..  As for the North Carolina Deaf &#8220;leaders&#8221;, it may be due to the fact so many of them have &#8220;died&#8221; trying and/or fighting..</p>
<p>  This is something that has been happening for over 10 years, the former Superintendents as in Gary Mowl and Kent Mann have discovered that fighting against the mighty North Carolina Political machine are well, truthfully career killers..</p>
<p>  This woman, L.L. is obviously an appointee of the Mighty NC Political machine again and will the state be willing to push her aside due to the weak rallying cries of the Carolina Deaf population ?</p>
<p>  Remains to be seen&#8230;., I do feel that the KEY to forcing changes at NCSD belong to the Students and their Parents..  Deaf or Hearing, they are still the KEY to defeating this whole thing.., if only they can be heard all the way over to Raleigh&#8230;</p>
<p>  The &#8220;problems that goes way deeper&#8221; as I&#8217;ve heard from several close contact of long time staffers at NCSD, are that there are instances of Incident Reports being torn up, not resolved nor reported..  Also with the Deaf staff at NCSD receiving more dire consequences for improper actions, failures and oversights more than their Hearing counterparts..<br />
  So it is again something deeper than just that L.L. and her staffers, the Dean of Students, Jody Self, Business manager and most of the Administration being unable to sign or communicate with the students they are there to help, to nurture and to educate, to begin with&#8230;</p>
<p>  Again, ANY attention on this pressing issue, will fall on &#8220;deaf&#8221; ears at the state capitol unless the Students and their parents speak up, raise a STINK about these issues..</p>
<p>Again it is a matter of changing what others view us as, DPN 1 and 2 has raised consciousness on these issues on a national level but it is up to us, DEAF to keep pushing that trend further, exposing other ignorants (especially our country&#8217;s governments starting with local venues and all the way up to our congress) to what we are and what we can do..</p>
<p>Thoughts and prayers are with my fellow North Carolinan&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Concern deaf citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concern deaf citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We, the deaf community, MUST do something! That includes DEAF staffs at NCSD! The adm people are probably laughing at us knowing nothing will happen! There were deaf concern group and look what happened??  It fell through. Adm ppl are not worried at all! They know by next week everything will be back to normal.
DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN!!! LET&#039;S GET DR. LL TO RESIGN!!!!! SHE NEEDS TO GO!!!  WE NEED DEAF DIRECTOR TO GET THIS SCHOOL BACK IN ORDER!
If Dr. LL is still there, NCSD will close soon! That&#039;s probably the reason she was hired! She is slowing trying to close the school for the state!!!!!!!!!
DO YOU WANT THIS TO HAPPEN??? DEAF STAFFS NEED THIS JOB! NCSD IS A GREAT PLACE TO WORK AND WOULD BE GREATER PLACE TO WORK IF WE HAD DEAF DIRECTOR WHO CAN MAKE CHANGES FOR OUR DEAF CHILDREN!!! WE CAN DO IT!!!!!
CAN WE DO IT???????  YES!!!

DEAF DIRECTOR NOW!
DEAF DIRECTOR NOW!
DEAF DIRECTOR NOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We, the deaf community, MUST do something! That includes DEAF staffs at NCSD! The adm people are probably laughing at us knowing nothing will happen! There were deaf concern group and look what happened??  It fell through. Adm ppl are not worried at all! They know by next week everything will be back to normal.<br />
DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN!!! LET&#8217;S GET DR. LL TO RESIGN!!!!! SHE NEEDS TO GO!!!  WE NEED DEAF DIRECTOR TO GET THIS SCHOOL BACK IN ORDER!<br />
If Dr. LL is still there, NCSD will close soon! That&#8217;s probably the reason she was hired! She is slowing trying to close the school for the state!!!!!!!!!<br />
DO YOU WANT THIS TO HAPPEN??? DEAF STAFFS NEED THIS JOB! NCSD IS A GREAT PLACE TO WORK AND WOULD BE GREATER PLACE TO WORK IF WE HAD DEAF DIRECTOR WHO CAN MAKE CHANGES FOR OUR DEAF CHILDREN!!! WE CAN DO IT!!!!!<br />
CAN WE DO IT???????  YES!!!</p>
<p>DEAF DIRECTOR NOW!<br />
DEAF DIRECTOR NOW!<br />
DEAF DIRECTOR NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/25/ncsd-students-civil-rights-violated/comment-page-1/#comment-6569</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has always been well known that school officials can restrict the free speech of students in certain ways, BUT it is also well known that they are not allowed to restrict free speech in ALL ways.

The students have a constitutional right to peacefully express their views, so long as they are not promoting illegal activity, and so long as they are not disrupting the function of the school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has always been well known that school officials can restrict the free speech of students in certain ways, BUT it is also well known that they are not allowed to restrict free speech in ALL ways.</p>
<p>The students have a constitutional right to peacefully express their views, so long as they are not promoting illegal activity, and so long as they are not disrupting the function of the school.</p>
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		<title>By: J.M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for taking so long to get back to you... Had long day at school...

Yes, Morse v. Fredrick is about Bong 4 Jesus which resulted that administrators can restrict students&#039; First Amendment rights. Since the case talked about drugs but the concept is about school CAN regulate or restrict what students do or say. In nutshell, Morse v. Fredrick does apply to restricting or regulating the freedom of speech or First Amendment like indicated by US Supreme Court at the discretion of the administration. My constitutional rights professor and few of my classmates had lengthy discussion about that case.

Many people didn&#039;t realize that administration has been regulating/restricting students&#039; First Amendment for years.... Dress Codes and censorship in school media.

Protesting is not illegal but many cities required people to apply for permit to protest on city&#039;s property or be charged with disturbance of peace. If I remember correctly, there is a case that is being heard by US Supreme Court about protesting right now or in few months. Am not sure...

Sorry for lengthy response and for getting off track little bit. But good luck to those students... They would have better luck if parents get involved...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for taking so long to get back to you&#8230; Had long day at school&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, Morse v. Fredrick is about Bong 4 Jesus which resulted that administrators can restrict students&#8217; First Amendment rights. Since the case talked about drugs but the concept is about school CAN regulate or restrict what students do or say. In nutshell, Morse v. Fredrick does apply to restricting or regulating the freedom of speech or First Amendment like indicated by US Supreme Court at the discretion of the administration. My constitutional rights professor and few of my classmates had lengthy discussion about that case.</p>
<p>Many people didn&#8217;t realize that administration has been regulating/restricting students&#8217; First Amendment for years&#8230;. Dress Codes and censorship in school media.</p>
<p>Protesting is not illegal but many cities required people to apply for permit to protest on city&#8217;s property or be charged with disturbance of peace. If I remember correctly, there is a case that is being heard by US Supreme Court about protesting right now or in few months. Am not sure&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry for lengthy response and for getting off track little bit. But good luck to those students&#8230; They would have better luck if parents get involved&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mishkazena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mishkazena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the issues?  I do get about the poor quality of education, but there seems to be more to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the issues?  I do get about the poor quality of education, but there seems to be more to this.</p>
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