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	<title>Comments on: AGBell: Damage Control, But No Apology</title>
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		<title>By: mishkazena</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6384</link>
		<dc:creator>mishkazena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cued speech isn&#039;t a bona fide language, unlike ASL. AGBell has a loonng history of vilifying ASL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cued speech isn&#8217;t a bona fide language, unlike ASL. AGBell has a loonng history of vilifying ASL</p>
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		<title>By: MMom</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6383</link>
		<dc:creator>MMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS The AG Bell convention this summer actually does have an entire pre-conference seminar about learning cued speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS The AG Bell convention this summer actually does have an entire pre-conference seminar about learning cued speech.</p>
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		<title>By: MMom</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6382</link>
		<dc:creator>MMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a member and I never got an e-mail about this. But I get all their other e-mails. Hmm. Makes me wonder if they sent it out to a select group?

I am not happy about their juvenile response to Pepsi at all!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a member and I never got an e-mail about this. But I get all their other e-mails. Hmm. Makes me wonder if they sent it out to a select group?</p>
<p>I am not happy about their juvenile response to Pepsi at all!!</p>
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		<title>By: alleon</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6381</link>
		<dc:creator>alleon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is petition about AGB!!

WANT to REMOVE his Plague and REname the dorm, Alexander Graham Bell Hall AT NTID/RIT???  then SIGN THIS!!!!

KEEP THIS IN OUR MIND, AG BELL IS HILTER TO DEAF COMMUNITY!!!!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/RMAGBELL/petition.html

sign this!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is petition about AGB!!</p>
<p>WANT to REMOVE his Plague and REname the dorm, Alexander Graham Bell Hall AT NTID/RIT???  then SIGN THIS!!!!</p>
<p>KEEP THIS IN OUR MIND, AG BELL IS HILTER TO DEAF COMMUNITY!!!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/RMAGBELL/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/RMAGBELL/petition.html</a></p>
<p>sign this!!!</p>
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		<title>By: WAD</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6380</link>
		<dc:creator>WAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Martin Luther King is not being nice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Martin Luther King is not being nice?</p>
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		<title>By: SlackinPenguin</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6379</link>
		<dc:creator>SlackinPenguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mishka,

Glad we could agree on something :)

I&#039;m not against oralism either even if I do prefer ASL. In fact, I don&#039;t treat oralists any different than I do ASL users. I include all deaf people under the umbrella of deafness regardless of their chosen method of communication and regardless of whether they us the CI, hearing aids, or nothing at all.

Like you, I fully support the right of parents to decide what is best for their deaf children. I may not agree with them, but I fully support their right to choose for themselves.

Am I implying that deaf people who use ASL aren&#039;t familiar with English? Not even close. I use ASL every day to communicate with my friends and family and I have done so for almost 30 years now, yet while my English skills aren&#039;t anything to write home about, they&#039;re halfway decent....I get by.

I agree, DeafRead makes for some very interesting reading. I&#039;ve been coming here almost every day since I found it approximately two weeks ago. Even though I was born deaf, have a deaf family, attended a deaf school, attended Gallaudet, used ASL for almost 30 years, I&#039;m sure I still have a lot to learn about deaf people and ASL. There&#039;s always room for improvement :)

Regards,
SlackinPenguin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mishka,</p>
<p>Glad we could agree on something <img src='http://www.mishkazena.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not against oralism either even if I do prefer ASL. In fact, I don&#8217;t treat oralists any different than I do ASL users. I include all deaf people under the umbrella of deafness regardless of their chosen method of communication and regardless of whether they us the CI, hearing aids, or nothing at all.</p>
<p>Like you, I fully support the right of parents to decide what is best for their deaf children. I may not agree with them, but I fully support their right to choose for themselves.</p>
<p>Am I implying that deaf people who use ASL aren&#8217;t familiar with English? Not even close. I use ASL every day to communicate with my friends and family and I have done so for almost 30 years now, yet while my English skills aren&#8217;t anything to write home about, they&#8217;re halfway decent&#8230;.I get by.</p>
<p>I agree, DeafRead makes for some very interesting reading. I&#8217;ve been coming here almost every day since I found it approximately two weeks ago. Even though I was born deaf, have a deaf family, attended a deaf school, attended Gallaudet, used ASL for almost 30 years, I&#8217;m sure I still have a lot to learn about deaf people and ASL. There&#8217;s always room for improvement <img src='http://www.mishkazena.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards,<br />
SlackinPenguin</p>
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		<title>By: Mishka Zena</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6378</link>
		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Penguin,

We can agree to disagree about AGBell&#039;s bigotry :)

I am not against oralism, if the child has enough hearing and if the parents feel it&#039;s the best fit for the child, after recieving full information about the communication options. It&#039;s my concern if the child will thrive well or not, though, and hope it won&#039;t turn out to be a mistake. It&#039;s a constant worry as I&#039;ve seen too many &#039;oral failures&#039;. I would hope the parents will be willing to add ASL, especially for deaf babies with immature voice boxes, but again it is the parents to determine what&#039;s best for their kids.

I am somewhat puzzled. Are you implying that Deaf people who use ASL aren&#039;t familiar with English? They are.  Many Deaf people can communicate easily with hearing people. It depends on their personality. Aren&#039;t you aware that the passenger in Pepsi ad grew up orally and uses a c.i. ? ASL doesn&#039;t restrict a person from the rest of society. That is a misconception. I grew up oral and I can say ASL expands my world. I acquired another tool of communication as well as a new language. How neat is that?

Welcome to DeafRead. It is a very interesting agregator. I would say you will learn a lot about Deaf people and ASL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penguin,</p>
<p>We can agree to disagree about AGBell&#8217;s bigotry <img src='http://www.mishkazena.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am not against oralism, if the child has enough hearing and if the parents feel it&#8217;s the best fit for the child, after recieving full information about the communication options. It&#8217;s my concern if the child will thrive well or not, though, and hope it won&#8217;t turn out to be a mistake. It&#8217;s a constant worry as I&#8217;ve seen too many &#8216;oral failures&#8217;. I would hope the parents will be willing to add ASL, especially for deaf babies with immature voice boxes, but again it is the parents to determine what&#8217;s best for their kids.</p>
<p>I am somewhat puzzled. Are you implying that Deaf people who use ASL aren&#8217;t familiar with English? They are.  Many Deaf people can communicate easily with hearing people. It depends on their personality. Aren&#8217;t you aware that the passenger in Pepsi ad grew up orally and uses a c.i. ? ASL doesn&#8217;t restrict a person from the rest of society. That is a misconception. I grew up oral and I can say ASL expands my world. I acquired another tool of communication as well as a new language. How neat is that?</p>
<p>Welcome to DeafRead. It is a very interesting agregator. I would say you will learn a lot about Deaf people and ASL.</p>
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		<title>By: SlackinPenguin</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6377</link>
		<dc:creator>SlackinPenguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Deep Ears,

Just to clarify, was your last post directed to me?

Regards,
SlackinPenguin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deep Ears,</p>
<p>Just to clarify, was your last post directed to me?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
SlackinPenguin</p>
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		<title>By: Deep Ears</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6376</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Ears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never heard of any significant number of deaf ASL users who don&#039;t know a good amount of written English.

You&#039;re showing your bigotry by assuming that there are a significant number of such people.  Just because some deaf people write with grammatical errors, doesn&#039;t mean that they cannot function just fine with English.  On top of that, growing up with ASL since birth usually enables a Deaf person to acquire native or near-native skills in English.  It&#039;s the semi-lingual deaf people who were forced to waste time with speech lessons who are the ones who have problems with English (and ASL).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of any significant number of deaf ASL users who don&#8217;t know a good amount of written English.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re showing your bigotry by assuming that there are a significant number of such people.  Just because some deaf people write with grammatical errors, doesn&#8217;t mean that they cannot function just fine with English.  On top of that, growing up with ASL since birth usually enables a Deaf person to acquire native or near-native skills in English.  It&#8217;s the semi-lingual deaf people who were forced to waste time with speech lessons who are the ones who have problems with English (and ASL).</p>
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		<title>By: SlackinPenguin</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2008/02/07/agbell-damage-control-but-no-apology/comment-page-2/#comment-6375</link>
		<dc:creator>SlackinPenguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi WAD,

Wow, accusing me of being ignorant and stupid...real nice ;)

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi WAD,</p>
<p>Wow, accusing me of being ignorant and stupid&#8230;real nice <img src='http://www.mishkazena.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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