Look who is flying off the handle. It is true when they say if you see a character defect in someone else it is usually a direct reflection of your own defect.

Who died and left you to be the spokeswoman for all deaf kind? There is nothing false in the way you two continue to embarrass the majority of the deaf community.

Sorry, it is the truth for many people who grew up orally. Just read more books on Deaf history and observe more carefully in what former oralists have to say about their oppressed experience. I never said ALL oralists experience oppression though. Looks like you are having a hard time handling that truth? Truth hurts, yeah.

Ok, I am not going to continue with this dialogue because all you do, CS, is to paint a false picture of me and MZ. I am not interested to deal with a person who flies off his or her handle by making false claims. Good bye and good riddance to you.

You seem inordinately fond of jumping into conclusions, which don’t reflect too well on you… because your assumptions are in error.

Deaf culturist? Funny way of calling me this, considering that I’ve been out of Deaf Community for ten years until last year.

By the way, please show me where I bashed Fernandes for using SimCom.

You won’t find anything.. because I hadn’t done any bashing on any deaf person’s choice of communication.

I cannot even begin to start a dialogue with you

for one obvious reason.

You projected into me your preconceived image which isn’t me at all. I suggest you read my blogs carefully. Others, including Deaf, oralists, C.I. users, and hearing people, who do, understand where I stand. After all, you do want to get all your facts right before you begin to bash me using wrong information. After all, it doesn’t make you look good.

By the way, the reason I don’t support AGBell is not because of its oralism, which I don’t have any problem, as long as the parents have all the information to make a decision and if the deaf child is able to benefit well. Their propaganda lead parents to believe one and only one, oralism is the right way to raise deaf kids when, in reality, it depends on the deaf kid’s needs. There is no one cookie cutter for all deaf kids. I also do not approve AGBell, as a professional organization, smearing a language and deaf people using sign language due to its prejudice against Deaf people who cannot talk and speak. Being deeply biased, it deliberately perpetuates inaccurate facts, misconceptions, and statistics to scare vulnerable and desperate parents away from exploring other options.

You know what I am talking about.. and the fact that you appear to have no problem with AGBell’s use of unethical and dirty tactics and its promotion of bigotry against one segment of deaf people doesn’t reflect well on you again.

I can only believe what I read. You and Barb can certainly be clumped in with the deaf culturalists. It doesn’t matter how you grew up. It is what you believe today, and what you have written about in the past.

One specific time was when Barb beat up on a parent of a deaf child who chose to have a CI put in her child. It was the same time she protested at the AGBell conference. She had NO right to tell another parent what to do with their own child. I think you can remember this.

How about attacking AGBell, what do you call that? You both are ripping apart the institution and directors, some who are deaf themselves, personally for there work in trying to help deaf people who need it. If you don’t call that an attacking a deaf person based on their communication method then what is it.

How about when you both slammed Dr. Fernandes for using SimCom and not perfect ASL among other things, please this list can go on.

They are all negative views. All of them. Never a solution, just constant bombardment of how someone is wronging your deaf community, oh wait, these people are part of the deaf community and you are constantly berating them because they have a different viewpoint or philosophy.

You cannot continually hide behind the fact that because you grew up orally you can be biased. If you were biased you would live and let live.

Both Barb and I have oral backgrounds… she went to hearing schools. I didn’t learn sign language until I went to college.

I am glad you didn’t feel oppressed. I feel lucky I did benefit from the good education I was afforded to. So did Barb.

However, many deaf kids weren’t as fortunate as we were. Their parents were told that ASL was the “evil monster” that will destroy their kids, when in reality, ASL will help them better than pure oralism. It appears pure oralism only benefited a small minority.

Anyway, you claimed that it would take too much time for you to dig up the negative attacks Barb did. Well, then it would have been wiser for you not to make claims if you cannot back them up.

I know Barb personally. She is a great person with a big heart. Never did I ever seen her attack another Deaf person based on their communication modes. Neither did I. Just because some of others may have done doesn’t mean we do the same thing. In fact, our diverse backgrounds help us understand Deaf people better.

Please don’t make the mistake of clumping us with others.

I come frome a family of deaf who grew up orally. One learned ASL and is exremely successful. Regardeless of the fact of being ridiculed by deaf culturists. They said he didn’t use “proper” ASL. So they kicked him away. The rest of us live great lives. We learned from a great lipreading specialist when we were very young. We communicate with the rest of the world just fine. I don’t feel for one minute I was oppressed. I wont speak for the rest of my family but I bet they would concur. So please stop portaying to the world that to grow up orally is to grow up being oppressed.

My deaf mother and hearing father made difficult decisions that turned out to be the right one’s. That’s where it ends, as long as you feel you are making the right decisions for your children, that’s it. Parents make decisions based on what they believe, not what you or another group feel is right.

As for me digging up your negative attacks on fellow deaf people, it would take me way to much time to dig it all up.

Yep, I don’t even think you are rationale yourself for making such judgement about me. I only presented my factual point of view based on research and experiences. It is never my intention to pull anyone down since my goal is to see every Deaf child live with prosperity and a pursuit of happiness. As long as anyone who is oral or wears CI and is happy then I am happy. But when it comes to being oppressed and abused, that is where I come in to advocate for their rights.

I wanted to clarify a bit about myself. I grew up bilingually, using spoken English in a public school and ASL at home. I had struggled getting communication access since I grew up in a public school without interpreters (back then in the 70s- eary 80s was common). I just know what it was like going through that, do you? Today, it saddens me to see that there are others who were oppressed to language access because they were forced to practice oralism against their will. Who will stand up for them? Should we just laid back and let the silent children cry alone?

You know, it is funny that you have exaggerated about me being at numerous protests since I only been at once but really I wished what you said was true.

It is all about Deaf babies’ right to communication access and educating people about the benefits of bilingualism. Please don’t haste to judge me CS especially that you don’t even know me. Thank you MZ for your validation.

So listen up Deaf Community…. just ignored the statement of AG Bell and the organization do not really scares us.. Therefor, we all can do it!!!!!!