Comments on: Cochlear Implanted Actors on “All My Children” http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:35:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jean Boutcher http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3762 Jean Boutcher Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:58:17 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3762 Thank you, Ken, for mentioning ADA. I have just recently learned that ADA has weakened. Congress has to re-enact it. ;-( Thank you, Ken, for mentioning ADA. I have
just recently learned that ADA has weakened.
Congress has to re-enact it. ;-(

]]> By: Ken Rose http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3761 Ken Rose Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:23:07 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3761 "Please don’t bash them about the possible use of cochlear implants and AVT." But PLEASE, by all means, bash ABC on their HIDEOUS, INCOMPREHENSIBLE CAPTIONS on AMC. ABC's CAPTIONING has been completely INCOHERENT. Ya know, if'n you're going to try to make some statement in support of the Deaf Community, you could at least TRY to provide COMPETENT CAPTIONING. Sic 'em! ABC's forum on AMC is http://forums.go.com/abc/daytime/allmychildren/forum?start=0&forumID=6&byThread=true and a direct question page is http://abc.go.com/daytime/burningquestion/index.html The best efforts of ABC to try to represent the Deaf Community is completely NEGATED if Deaf people can't even understand what the heck is being said on the show. If "cochlear implant" comes out "COKE LEER IN PLANT," or some other gobbledygook. It's well about time Deaf people stood up for COMPETENT CAPTIONING. It's not enough that TV simply be captioned, if the networks don't even try to make their captions legible or make sense. Of course, certain broadcasts like live news might mistakes here and there. But a taped show has no excuse for incoherent captioning and Deaf people shouldn't put up with it any longer! It's an ADA issue. Some networks, notably COMEDY CENTRAL, routinely put up crappy Live captions, even when the show is rebroadcast weeks later. It's inexcusable. And if Deaf people need to threaten a Class Action lawsuit to stop it, so be it. “Please don’t bash them about the possible use of cochlear implants and AVT.”

But PLEASE, by all means, bash ABC on their HIDEOUS, INCOMPREHENSIBLE CAPTIONS on AMC.

ABC’s CAPTIONING has been completely INCOHERENT. Ya know, if’n you’re going to try to make some statement in support of the Deaf Community, you could at least TRY to provide COMPETENT CAPTIONING.

Sic ‘em!

ABC’s forum on AMC is http://forums.go.com/abc/daytime/allmychildren/forum?start=0&forumID=6&byThread=true
and a direct question page is
http://abc.go.com/daytime/burningquestion/index.html

The best efforts of ABC to try to represent the Deaf Community is completely NEGATED if Deaf people can’t even understand what the heck is being said on the show. If “cochlear implant” comes out “COKE LEER IN PLANT,” or some other gobbledygook.

It’s well about time Deaf people stood up for COMPETENT CAPTIONING. It’s not enough that TV simply be captioned, if the networks don’t even try to make their captions legible or make sense.

Of course, certain broadcasts like live news might mistakes here and there. But a taped show has no excuse for incoherent captioning and Deaf people shouldn’t put up with it any longer!

It’s an ADA issue. Some networks, notably COMEDY CENTRAL, routinely put up crappy Live captions, even when the show is rebroadcast weeks later. It’s inexcusable. And if Deaf people need to threaten a Class Action lawsuit to stop it, so be it.

]]> By: RLM http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3760 RLM Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:36:13 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3760 Ron F., Brian Riley and Jean Boutcher, well-said! We really could not afford to be dutifully polite and submissive on the issue of AVT therapy to deprieve more and more deaf babies from learning American Sign Language. That's what Ron F. said about too many people misinterpret the spoken English to be part of the bilingualism within deaf education. How true! I did not have any chance of viewing the AMC show today on 15th for the introduction of deaf baby with CI. Robert L. Mason (RLM) Ron F., Brian Riley and Jean Boutcher, well-said!

We really could not afford to be dutifully polite and submissive on the issue of AVT therapy to deprieve more and more deaf babies from learning American Sign Language.

That’s what Ron F. said about too many people misinterpret the spoken English to be part of the bilingualism within deaf education. How true!

I did not have any chance of viewing the AMC show today on 15th for the introduction of deaf baby with CI.

Robert L. Mason (RLM)

]]> By: KAREN http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3759 KAREN Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:05:23 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3759 i have a friend who is deaf and had ci ,allhis life his mother wouldnt let him learn asl ..he struggled thru regular schools but he did graduate...he as an adult got the ci surgery ,and i must say he used it for 2 weeks and couldnt stand it he never wheres it anymore ,i ask him why?because he hears everything at same time ...traffic,tv,people,etc. all at same timedrove him crazy .so he wont use it..and i have been teaching him asl. he wondnt learn before cause he was ashamed cause of mother ..but thank god he sees now how important it is ...i hope all people who get ci need to know that when they open ears too hear it will be all noises same time ..can be overbearing..i hope they work on that somehow improve .or ??? thank you for this page i read all of things important . i have a friend who is deaf and had ci ,allhis life his mother wouldnt let him learn asl ..he struggled thru regular schools but he did graduate…he as an adult got the ci surgery ,and i must say he used it for 2 weeks and couldnt stand it he never wheres it anymore ,i ask him why?because he hears everything at same time …traffic,tv,people,etc. all at same timedrove him crazy .so he wont use it..and i have been teaching him asl. he wondnt learn before cause he was ashamed cause of mother ..but thank god he sees now how important it is …i hope all people who get ci need to know that when they open ears too hear it will be all noises same time ..can be overbearing..i hope they work on that somehow improve .or ??? thank you for this page i read all of things important .

]]> By: Jean Boutcher http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3758 Jean Boutcher Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:41:28 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3758 It is morally and ethically wrong to deprive a deaf child's BIRTHRIGHT signed language. Dot. I am disappointed that doctors fail to comply with the NAD's 1993 position paper which has it that all doctors make a copy of the paper to the parents and the CI candidates. It looks like that the NAD Board has to re-issue an updated position paper because today is the third millennium. It is morally and ethically wrong to deprive a deaf child’s BIRTHRIGHT signed language. Dot.

I am disappointed that doctors fail to comply with the NAD’s 1993 position paper which has it that all doctors make a copy of the paper to the parents and the CI candidates. It looks like that the NAD Board has to re-issue an updated position paper because today is the third millennium.

]]> By: Floridagirl http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3757 Floridagirl Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:15:25 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3757 I found that website in Vlog shows the representation of CI baby. I clearly see CI baby has trouble because her CI comes off her ear too easily while she is moving a lot her hands in communication. Hearing and CI babies have the same as not developed talking their voice. ChrisH is right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlmEMG6NTM I found that website in Vlog shows the representation of CI baby. I clearly see CI baby has trouble because her CI comes off her ear too easily while she is moving a lot her hands in communication. Hearing and CI babies have the same as not developed talking their voice. ChrisH is right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlmEMG6NTM

]]> By: Floridagirl http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3756 Floridagirl Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:57:00 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3756 Jarom M. I forgot to ask if you were born deaf. While it was nothing to receive, communicate, and gain some vocabulary, I agree with John E who commented, my parent’s gullible right to choose me to be a “parrot”. Jarom M.

I forgot to ask if you were born deaf. While it was nothing to receive, communicate, and gain some vocabulary, I agree with John E who commented, my parent’s gullible right to choose me to be a “parrot”.

]]> By: Floridagirl http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3755 Floridagirl Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:45:50 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3755 Jarom M. It is obvious that you delayed your language until the age of two, you got CI and learned Cue language. These helped you to focus on monolingual such as English, which is part of the family to Cue language and Oral language. In opposite, deaf babies receive vocabulary in ASL and grow to structure language and gain their IQ. You think it is okay that deaf( not all deaf) struggle to use oral but will possibly fall behind in the low grades. Failing oral deaf students gain oppression when these deaf need to access either ASL or Cue language and catch up to increase language. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amy “I wholeheartedly support her suggestion that we need to be *smart* in how we present ourselves that we are strong advocates for using American Sign Language for deaf babies and toddlers WITH cochlear implants along with their AVT sessions.” It is good news of ChrisH brought it CI babies bilingual-ASL and English, but I have not seen CI babies communicate in ASL as primary language. It is a great deal of irony. Jarom M.

It is obvious that you delayed your language until the age of two, you got CI and learned Cue language. These helped you to focus on monolingual such as English, which is part of the family to Cue language and Oral language. In opposite, deaf babies receive vocabulary in ASL and grow to structure language and gain their IQ.

You think it is okay that deaf( not all deaf) struggle to use oral but will possibly fall behind in the low grades. Failing oral deaf students gain oppression when these deaf need to access either ASL or Cue language and catch up to increase language.

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Amy

“I wholeheartedly support her suggestion that we need to be *smart* in how we present ourselves that we are strong advocates for using American Sign Language for deaf babies and toddlers WITH cochlear implants along with their AVT sessions.”

It is good news of ChrisH brought it CI babies bilingual-ASL and English, but I have not seen CI babies communicate in ASL as primary language. It is a great deal of irony.

]]> By: Brian Riley http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3754 Brian Riley Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:17:57 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3754 Jarrom, It is wrong to deny deaf babies the opportunity to use a natural language at birth. Period. Whether or not parents have the right to make those decisions for their deaf child is a side issue. You either need to address the main issue, or admit that you have no preference or no opinion on it. It is completely illogical to bring up the side issue as a way of answering the main issue. Jarrom,

It is wrong to deny deaf babies the opportunity to use a natural language at birth. Period.

Whether or not parents have the right to make those decisions for their deaf child is a side issue.

You either need to address the main issue, or admit that you have no preference or no opinion on it. It is completely illogical to bring up the side issue as a way of answering the main issue.

]]> By: Jarom M. http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/comment-page-1/#comment-3753 Jarom M. Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:37:23 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2007/08/14/cochlear-implanted-actors-on-all-my-children/#comment-3753 Brian Riley- I am not going to dispute your perspectives. It's interesting to see people's perspectives on this subject since it's very sticky subject. You mentioned wrong choices... I find those words very interesting. Really, people will always view one method or other as wrong choice... You and I have our preferences. Like I say, I am not against any methods. What I am for, the parents to be fully informed about all options then let them make the decisions for themselves. Brian Riley-

I am not going to dispute your perspectives. It’s interesting to see people’s perspectives on this subject since it’s very sticky subject.

You mentioned wrong choices… I find those words very interesting. Really, people will always view one method or other as wrong choice… You and I have our preferences. Like I say, I am not against any methods. What I am for, the parents to be fully informed about all options then let them make the decisions for themselves.

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