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		<title>By: No Name Please</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/06/18/davila-speaks-about-listservs-and-blogs/comment-page-2/#comment-3473</link>
		<dc:creator>No Name Please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R-

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The one who has the guts to spell the beans.

Keep feedin&#039; us the information preferably facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R-</p>
<p>My apologies.</p>
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<p>The one who has the guts to spell the beans.</p>
<p>Keep feedin&#8217; us the information preferably facts.</p>
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		<title>By: The One and Only Ridor</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/06/18/davila-speaks-about-listservs-and-blogs/comment-page-2/#comment-3472</link>
		<dc:creator>The One and Only Ridor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MZ, I did not mean to indicate that you&#039;re speculating!  I&#039;m talking about the bloggers in general dwelling on speculations.

I also heard that Slemo took 2-hour lunch break while everyone has 30-minute break.  It was said that his staff members resented Slemo for behaving like he&#039;s God.

But that is a speculation, though.  I&#039;m glad that you existed, MZ.  I need great team of bloggers.  Not idiotic ones.

R-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MZ, I did not mean to indicate that you&#8217;re speculating!  I&#8217;m talking about the bloggers in general dwelling on speculations.</p>
<p>I also heard that Slemo took 2-hour lunch break while everyone has 30-minute break.  It was said that his staff members resented Slemo for behaving like he&#8217;s God.</p>
<p>But that is a speculation, though.  I&#8217;m glad that you existed, MZ.  I need great team of bloggers.  Not idiotic ones.</p>
<p>R-</p>
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		<title>By: Mishkazena</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/06/18/davila-speaks-about-listservs-and-blogs/comment-page-2/#comment-3471</link>
		<dc:creator>Mishkazena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NoName, yes, this is pretty much the attitude of Bot from multiple sources I&#039;ve heard. It makes perfect sense when you keep in mind that memo when BoT instructed people NOT to talk about Gallaudet issues on the Internet. They felt we caused problems despite the fact that most of the blogs didn&#039;t exist prior to the protest and the issues dating back for at least five years. Gallaudet, not us the bloggers, created these problems. It is very unfortunate that the BoT don&#039;t promote transparency because the lack of transparency for many years is the reason Gallaudet is in a critical shape now, receiving IV blood. That kind of plaintation mentality has to go.  Hopefully the new BoT will see the value of transparency and shared governance because, believe me, Gallaudet will not get better otherwise.

R, what makes you think I am speculating? Hint: people who read my blog knows I am very credible and if I bring up an issue, there is an excellent reason. By the way, the signs are also out there if people open their eyes

However, I want to point out that even bloggers, including you and I, are entitled to speculate. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NoName, yes, this is pretty much the attitude of Bot from multiple sources I&#8217;ve heard. It makes perfect sense when you keep in mind that memo when BoT instructed people NOT to talk about Gallaudet issues on the Internet. They felt we caused problems despite the fact that most of the blogs didn&#8217;t exist prior to the protest and the issues dating back for at least five years. Gallaudet, not us the bloggers, created these problems. It is very unfortunate that the BoT don&#8217;t promote transparency because the lack of transparency for many years is the reason Gallaudet is in a critical shape now, receiving IV blood. That kind of plaintation mentality has to go.  Hopefully the new BoT will see the value of transparency and shared governance because, believe me, Gallaudet will not get better otherwise.</p>
<p>R, what makes you think I am speculating? Hint: people who read my blog knows I am very credible and if I bring up an issue, there is an excellent reason. By the way, the signs are also out there if people open their eyes</p>
<p>However, I want to point out that even bloggers, including you and I, are entitled to speculate. <img src='http://www.mishkazena.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The One and Only Ridor</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/06/18/davila-speaks-about-listservs-and-blogs/comment-page-2/#comment-3470</link>
		<dc:creator>The One and Only Ridor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NoNamePlease:  I&#039;m glad that Pam Holmes blamed RidorLIVE.com for bringing the light on dirty dishes from day one!

Oh, by the way, I am not Richard Taylor.  My real name is Ricky Taylor.  Get this through your brain.    I know who you are.  Your obsession with me from day one is quite revealing.

MZ, your #43 comment is right on the target.  Very few deaf bloggers get what it means to be a blogger and a journalist.  I&#039;m SO glad that you&#039;re one of few deaf bloggers, MZ!

About GallyNet-L, I stopped subscribing the listserv last year in June, 2006 mainly because I can see the repeated patterns of attacks upon certain individuals.  I believe that GallyNet has outlived its use regarding the issues at Gallaudet.

I do not know the exact causes that caused Gallaudet to terminate Slemo Warigon but there are always rumors that indicated Slemo used his time, computer and internet at work to do GallyNet.  That is big &#039;no-no&#039; -- and I heard that he also broke some confidential information -- if true, that is big &#039;no-no&#039;, too!  But speculations does not help much unless you have verified information to back your claims up -- something that I always used when I report things on RidorLIVE.com.

I completely support Dr. Davila&#039;s position on what he has expressed.  It is time for positive changes and I have seen so good changes at Gallaudet.  Talking with students and faculty members, many are very upbeat and positive about Gallaudet&#039;s changes.  To me, that is good step.  Of course, we must expect a small group of disgruntled fellas who would do anything to muster the positive changes that Dr. Davila has attempted to do at Gallaudet.

Once again, NoNamePlease, next time if you want to paraphrase Pam Holmes&#039; comments, be sure to address me as Ridor or Ricky -- show some respect and class for a change.

R-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NoNamePlease:  I&#8217;m glad that Pam Holmes blamed RidorLIVE.com for bringing the light on dirty dishes from day one!</p>
<p>Oh, by the way, I am not Richard Taylor.  My real name is Ricky Taylor.  Get this through your brain.    I know who you are.  Your obsession with me from day one is quite revealing.</p>
<p>MZ, your #43 comment is right on the target.  Very few deaf bloggers get what it means to be a blogger and a journalist.  I&#8217;m SO glad that you&#8217;re one of few deaf bloggers, MZ!</p>
<p>About GallyNet-L, I stopped subscribing the listserv last year in June, 2006 mainly because I can see the repeated patterns of attacks upon certain individuals.  I believe that GallyNet has outlived its use regarding the issues at Gallaudet.</p>
<p>I do not know the exact causes that caused Gallaudet to terminate Slemo Warigon but there are always rumors that indicated Slemo used his time, computer and internet at work to do GallyNet.  That is big &#8216;no-no&#8217; &#8212; and I heard that he also broke some confidential information &#8212; if true, that is big &#8216;no-no&#8217;, too!  But speculations does not help much unless you have verified information to back your claims up &#8212; something that I always used when I report things on RidorLIVE.com.</p>
<p>I completely support Dr. Davila&#8217;s position on what he has expressed.  It is time for positive changes and I have seen so good changes at Gallaudet.  Talking with students and faculty members, many are very upbeat and positive about Gallaudet&#8217;s changes.  To me, that is good step.  Of course, we must expect a small group of disgruntled fellas who would do anything to muster the positive changes that Dr. Davila has attempted to do at Gallaudet.</p>
<p>Once again, NoNamePlease, next time if you want to paraphrase Pam Holmes&#8217; comments, be sure to address me as Ridor or Ricky &#8212; show some respect and class for a change.</p>
<p>R-</p>
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		<title>By: No Name Please</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/06/18/davila-speaks-about-listservs-and-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-3469</link>
		<dc:creator>No Name Please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A *VERY* reliable source informed me that she had the opportunity to sit with the Gallaudet BOT Chair Pamela Holmes at a friend&#039;s private party not too long ago. Asked what happened with IJK and JKF, Pamela suddenly blamed RidorLIVE and few other blogs that caused the big time mess for Gallaudet.

&quot;Damn these blogs particularly Richard Taylor&quot; she exclaimed, &quot;they spoiled everything; they hurt us. Damn them.&quot;

I must concede that says a lot.

Wow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A *VERY* reliable source informed me that she had the opportunity to sit with the Gallaudet BOT Chair Pamela Holmes at a friend&#8217;s private party not too long ago. Asked what happened with IJK and JKF, Pamela suddenly blamed RidorLIVE and few other blogs that caused the big time mess for Gallaudet.</p>
<p>&#8220;Damn these blogs particularly Richard Taylor&#8221; she exclaimed, &#8220;they spoiled everything; they hurt us. Damn them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I must concede that says a lot.</p>
<p>Wow!</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it goes like this:  &quot;those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it goes like this:  &#8220;those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mishka Zena</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/06/18/davila-speaks-about-listservs-and-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-3467</link>
		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snoopy, I am glad you contacted the administrator and received a response. I hope your grievance will be listened and taken care of, accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snoopy, I am glad you contacted the administrator and received a response. I hope your grievance will be listened and taken care of, accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: SnoopyFreak02</title>
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		<dc:creator>SnoopyFreak02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mishkazena,

Yeah you are right, I have already contacted one of administrator and I got email from them last night. He wants me to tell him how I felt or my opinion about Kitty B. So I did reply back to that person last night. I did ask the person who I had contacted to make sure if I am right the person to contact and want to express my feeling and opinion about one of professor from PE major so I got the right person who I supposed to contact. Thanks for advising me about how and who I supposed to contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mishkazena,</p>
<p>Yeah you are right, I have already contacted one of administrator and I got email from them last night. He wants me to tell him how I felt or my opinion about Kitty B. So I did reply back to that person last night. I did ask the person who I had contacted to make sure if I am right the person to contact and want to express my feeling and opinion about one of professor from PE major so I got the right person who I supposed to contact. Thanks for advising me about how and who I supposed to contact.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Googling â€œHe who doesnâ€™t know his history is doomed to repeat itâ€ returns only a single hit, so whatever the exact wording was, that wasn&#039;t it. (Interestingly, some think Santayana meant to say those who cannot remember history were doomed to fulfill it.)

A Gallaudet employee certainly would be justified in leaking confidential information if, and only if, to keep silent was the greater wrong.

The main point is that it was foolish for the BoT to attempt to impose some kind of ban or moratorium on discussion of Gallaudet&#039;s problems. There are times when airing dirty laundry is a necessary part of the process in getting it clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Googling â€œHe who doesnâ€™t know his history is doomed to repeat itâ€ returns only a single hit, so whatever the exact wording was, that wasn&#8217;t it. (Interestingly, some think Santayana meant to say those who cannot remember history were doomed to fulfill it.)</p>
<p>A Gallaudet employee certainly would be justified in leaking confidential information if, and only if, to keep silent was the greater wrong.</p>
<p>The main point is that it was foolish for the BoT to attempt to impose some kind of ban or moratorium on discussion of Gallaudet&#8217;s problems. There are times when airing dirty laundry is a necessary part of the process in getting it clean.</p>
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		<title>By: Deaf Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2007/06/18/davila-speaks-about-listservs-and-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-3464</link>
		<dc:creator>Deaf Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean, why did Davila interfere with GallyNet first? Why not fire Slemo first and leave GallyNet alone? What was his purpose of investigating to identify the server of GallyNet and contacting him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean, why did Davila interfere with GallyNet first? Why not fire Slemo first and leave GallyNet alone? What was his purpose of investigating to identify the server of GallyNet and contacting him?</p>
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