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		<title>By: Vonne Gulak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vonne Gulak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IJK has &quot;Avoidant Personality Disorder.&quot; It is very obvious in what he had done, and stated.  Very defensive, too.  When one is guilty, one tends to be too defensive.  Think about that.
Vonne Gulak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IJK has &#8220;Avoidant Personality Disorder.&#8221; It is very obvious in what he had done, and stated.  Very defensive, too.  When one is guilty, one tends to be too defensive.  Think about that.<br />
Vonne Gulak.</p>
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		<title>By: RLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan McClintock,

  FYI, the Washington Post readership have been dramatically plummetted unlike the past readership of pre-late 90s, because of the Internet access to wide array of news.

  We have to write out our responses in very public ways - various media mediums.

  Sadly, the Washington Post newspaper have been through the real change within the different Graham, Kathleen Graham&#039;s son.

  If Kathleen Graham is still alive. She would not let the IKJ&#039;s Op-Ed article running her fingers til the balance of opposition&#039;s viewpoint to rebutt IKJ&#039;s claims.

Robert L. Mason (RLM)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan McClintock,</p>
<p>  FYI, the Washington Post readership have been dramatically plummetted unlike the past readership of pre-late 90s, because of the Internet access to wide array of news.</p>
<p>  We have to write out our responses in very public ways &#8211; various media mediums.</p>
<p>  Sadly, the Washington Post newspaper have been through the real change within the different Graham, Kathleen Graham&#8217;s son.</p>
<p>  If Kathleen Graham is still alive. She would not let the IKJ&#8217;s Op-Ed article running her fingers til the balance of opposition&#8217;s viewpoint to rebutt IKJ&#8217;s claims.</p>
<p>Robert L. Mason (RLM)</p>
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		<title>By: BuddyL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuddyL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Half of post somehow got cut off. Here is second half of it!)


Now, first off, &quot;dire consequences&quot; means what? -That any and all protesters get life in prison? That if one person dares to speak up, the MSA will swoop down on Gally with bulldozers and level the land for  parking lot? -That accreditation will be taken away permanently, never to be restored?  No, no, and no again. It only means they would have to seriously look into everything, and decide their next course of action. They do NOT say that immediate and permanent loss of all accreditation would automatically occur. That is what Jordan would like all to believe. It&#039;s a gun held to your head. &quot;Behave now or the world ends&quot;!

But one thing being missed or forgotten here. If there should have to be yet another protest, lockdown, or lunchroom boycott... does it not matter WHY? Like the DPN shutdown, there was a reason for this. And if it needs to happen again, there would be a true and dire need for it. If people want to dish out warnings of &quot;dire consequences,&quot; remember that it&#039;s dire circumstances which created a dire need, to defeat a dire mistake by a dire tyrant. I get the impression &quot;dire&quot; is yet another word being tossed around in the PR spins, to strike fear into the masses. &quot;Anything YOU do will now have dire consequences!&quot;  But what about actions of the BoT and Jordan stooges that could still force more action?  I do not advocate further lockdowns, sitdowns, or any other types of &quot;strike,&quot; but perhaps if it did come to it, then &quot;dire consequences&quot; may be just the &quot;armageddon&quot; needed to bring about total change?

Remember, when T.H. Gallaudet could not get the help he needed from the Braidwoods, he went to France and got even better help from Clerc, Sicard, and their people.  Perhaps, faced with the loss of MSA accreditation, Gallaudet would strike out to new frontiers, with a totally new agenda, new leaders, and new accreditation...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Half of post somehow got cut off. Here is second half of it!)</p>
<p>Now, first off, &#8220;dire consequences&#8221; means what? -That any and all protesters get life in prison? That if one person dares to speak up, the MSA will swoop down on Gally with bulldozers and level the land for  parking lot? -That accreditation will be taken away permanently, never to be restored?  No, no, and no again. It only means they would have to seriously look into everything, and decide their next course of action. They do NOT say that immediate and permanent loss of all accreditation would automatically occur. That is what Jordan would like all to believe. It&#8217;s a gun held to your head. &#8220;Behave now or the world ends&#8221;!</p>
<p>But one thing being missed or forgotten here. If there should have to be yet another protest, lockdown, or lunchroom boycott&#8230; does it not matter WHY? Like the DPN shutdown, there was a reason for this. And if it needs to happen again, there would be a true and dire need for it. If people want to dish out warnings of &#8220;dire consequences,&#8221; remember that it&#8217;s dire circumstances which created a dire need, to defeat a dire mistake by a dire tyrant. I get the impression &#8220;dire&#8221; is yet another word being tossed around in the PR spins, to strike fear into the masses. &#8220;Anything YOU do will now have dire consequences!&#8221;  But what about actions of the BoT and Jordan stooges that could still force more action?  I do not advocate further lockdowns, sitdowns, or any other types of &#8220;strike,&#8221; but perhaps if it did come to it, then &#8220;dire consequences&#8221; may be just the &#8220;armageddon&#8221; needed to bring about total change?</p>
<p>Remember, when T.H. Gallaudet could not get the help he needed from the Braidwoods, he went to France and got even better help from Clerc, Sicard, and their people.  Perhaps, faced with the loss of MSA accreditation, Gallaudet would strike out to new frontiers, with a totally new agenda, new leaders, and new accreditation&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: BuddyL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuddyL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since just about everything else about Jordan&#039;s op-ed -as well as any other aspect of him and his gal- has already been touched on and hit on, so many times... I&#039;d like to focus briefly on this matter of the MSA &quot;warning&quot;

As Jordan himself states in his article:
&quot;A visiting team from the Middle States Associationâ€™s Commission on Higher Education made clear in its exit report to the campus community this month that closing a university and denying the free exchange of ideas is not an acceptable expression of disagreement. If this were to occur again, it stated, there would be â€œdire consequencesâ€ from Middle States with respect to the universityâ€™s accreditation.&quot;

dire â€“adjective, dirÂ·er, dirÂ·est.
1. causing or involving great fear or suffering; dreadful; terrible
2. indicating trouble, disaster, misfortune, or the like
3. urgent; desperate
[Origin: 1560â€“70;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since just about everything else about Jordan&#8217;s op-ed -as well as any other aspect of him and his gal- has already been touched on and hit on, so many times&#8230; I&#8217;d like to focus briefly on this matter of the MSA &#8220;warning&#8221;</p>
<p>As Jordan himself states in his article:<br />
&#8220;A visiting team from the Middle States Associationâ€™s Commission on Higher Education made clear in its exit report to the campus community this month that closing a university and denying the free exchange of ideas is not an acceptable expression of disagreement. If this were to occur again, it stated, there would be â€œdire consequencesâ€ from Middle States with respect to the universityâ€™s accreditation.&#8221;</p>
<p>dire â€“adjective, dirÂ·er, dirÂ·est.<br />
1. causing or involving great fear or suffering; dreadful; terrible<br />
2. indicating trouble, disaster, misfortune, or the like<br />
3. urgent; desperate<br />
[Origin: 1560â€“70;</p>
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		<title>By: kimberly wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimberly wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is too bad that ljk outlashes galladuet university in the washington post. i am currently from edmonton, alberta. i went to kendall when i was a small girl with my mom attending bachelor degree at gallaudet.. when ijk was president.. all over the world look him up.. and it s a shame how low he can get to now..  he is putting himself on the spot from time to time... it is his own fault.. it is our duty as a former student, alumni, current student, and espically friends in deaf community have to prove to the u.s govt and the world that gallaudet university is the best for deafies to do their studies and follow our dreams to what we want to be... dr. davila i remember standing next to him i thought he was awesome..  cutting the ribbon for the kendall back in 1980. IT SURE WAS NICE TO SEE HIM AS A INTERIM PRESIDENT. HE IS THE RIGHT PERSON TO CLEAN UP THE MESS THAT IJK LEFT AND GUIDE THE UNIVERSITY INTO A WONDERFUL UNIVERSITY FOR EVERYONE WITH A HEARING LOSS.. NO MATTER HOW DEAF YOU ARE.. PROVIDING THE NEEDS TO EACH STUDENTS... WITH A OPEN COMMUNICATION!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is too bad that ljk outlashes galladuet university in the washington post. i am currently from edmonton, alberta. i went to kendall when i was a small girl with my mom attending bachelor degree at gallaudet.. when ijk was president.. all over the world look him up.. and it s a shame how low he can get to now..  he is putting himself on the spot from time to time&#8230; it is his own fault.. it is our duty as a former student, alumni, current student, and espically friends in deaf community have to prove to the u.s govt and the world that gallaudet university is the best for deafies to do their studies and follow our dreams to what we want to be&#8230; dr. davila i remember standing next to him i thought he was awesome..  cutting the ribbon for the kendall back in 1980. IT SURE WAS NICE TO SEE HIM AS A INTERIM PRESIDENT. HE IS THE RIGHT PERSON TO CLEAN UP THE MESS THAT IJK LEFT AND GUIDE THE UNIVERSITY INTO A WONDERFUL UNIVERSITY FOR EVERYONE WITH A HEARING LOSS.. NO MATTER HOW DEAF YOU ARE.. PROVIDING THE NEEDS TO EACH STUDENTS&#8230; WITH A OPEN COMMUNICATION!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mishka Zena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iam, Jordan wanted the community divided and fighting each other, so he threw a red herring. He knew he and Fernandes would garnish more support if they appears to be a &#039;victim&#039; of deaf identity politics, but it was never an issue as Gallaudet had always accepted students of different communication backgrounds from the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iam, Jordan wanted the community divided and fighting each other, so he threw a red herring. He knew he and Fernandes would garnish more support if they appears to be a &#8216;victim&#8217; of deaf identity politics, but it was never an issue as Gallaudet had always accepted students of different communication backgrounds from the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: IamMine</title>
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		<dc:creator>IamMine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s correct, MZ.

Pamela, I am a CI user and there are also others like me, as well as different backgrounds of deaf/hoh people involved and supported the protest.

This is being blown out of proportion....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s correct, MZ.</p>
<p>Pamela, I am a CI user and there are also others like me, as well as different backgrounds of deaf/hoh people involved and supported the protest.</p>
<p>This is being blown out of proportion&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mishka Zena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela, many deaf people, including those wearing hearing aids and cochlear implants,not only attended Gallaudet, but also participated in the protest. Deaf identity was used as a red herring to distract the media and the public from the real issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela, many deaf people, including those wearing hearing aids and cochlear implants,not only attended Gallaudet, but also participated in the protest. Deaf identity was used as a red herring to distract the media and the public from the real issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To ChrisH #54, that&#039;s true Gallaudet was founded in 1864.
A lot of things have changed since then if you haven&#039;t noticed.
Because some deaf people want to use whatever tools they are offered to get in thier world should not be an open invitation for deaf culturists to ridicule them.
As much as any of you want to deny it that is what is being cast out to the world during the recent protest.
Cancer patients have been given greater chances at living due to medical science discoveries. Deaf people who choose to use the medical community or other forms of communication to better thier quality of life should be welcomed and not shunned.
IKJ has only stated what is happening in the purist terms which may be hard for some of you to swallow or admit.
I suggest you put you raw emotions aside and get honest with yourselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To ChrisH #54, that&#8217;s true Gallaudet was founded in 1864.<br />
A lot of things have changed since then if you haven&#8217;t noticed.<br />
Because some deaf people want to use whatever tools they are offered to get in thier world should not be an open invitation for deaf culturists to ridicule them.<br />
As much as any of you want to deny it that is what is being cast out to the world during the recent protest.<br />
Cancer patients have been given greater chances at living due to medical science discoveries. Deaf people who choose to use the medical community or other forms of communication to better thier quality of life should be welcomed and not shunned.<br />
IKJ has only stated what is happening in the purist terms which may be hard for some of you to swallow or admit.<br />
I suggest you put you raw emotions aside and get honest with yourselves!</p>
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		<title>By: Bay Area Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bay Area Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 00:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still wait for Dr. Davila&#039;s word&#039;s coming out.  He is the priority to say.  Watch out of his words when he announces in his speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still wait for Dr. Davila&#8217;s word&#8217;s coming out.  He is the priority to say.  Watch out of his words when he announces in his speech.</p>
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