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		<title>By: Mishka Zena &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2006: Best Blogs of Mishka Zena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 2006: Best Blogs of Mishka Zena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Albert W</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/15/vlog-proof-pramuk-lied/comment-page-1/#comment-1129</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous... don&#039;t tell me what to do if you can&#039;t write your own name.  I am not listening to you since you can be Stephan.  Last night there were about 10 people talking about Stephan.  Everyone said the same thing. What was Stephan doing there?  Thanks the BOT?   It is not healing process yet.  Dont sweep the dirt under the rug and move on.  We have to wash the rug... shaking the rug... clean from top to bottom.  Repeal the reprisal and hire these people back to the jobs.  They were doing you a favor.  Next time reveal your first name... not anonymous...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous&#8230; don&#8217;t tell me what to do if you can&#8217;t write your own name.  I am not listening to you since you can be Stephan.  Last night there were about 10 people talking about Stephan.  Everyone said the same thing. What was Stephan doing there?  Thanks the BOT?   It is not healing process yet.  Dont sweep the dirt under the rug and move on.  We have to wash the rug&#8230; shaking the rug&#8230; clean from top to bottom.  Repeal the reprisal and hire these people back to the jobs.  They were doing you a favor.  Next time reveal your first name&#8230; not anonymous&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mishka Zena</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/15/vlog-proof-pramuk-lied/comment-page-1/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>g, I found more allegations that Carl made these statement. Read my post this am.

Simply, that was made the day after Dr Fernandes was forced to resign. Reprisals hadn&#039;t been done yet. People believed because of what Hlibok relayed that the reprisals would be minor. Later the reprisals turned out to be much severe, fired jobs, laid off from internships, on unpaid leave from jobs, etc. Excessive sanctions totally out of proportion to the offenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>g, I found more allegations that Carl made these statement. Read my post this am.</p>
<p>Simply, that was made the day after Dr Fernandes was forced to resign. Reprisals hadn&#8217;t been done yet. People believed because of what Hlibok relayed that the reprisals would be minor. Later the reprisals turned out to be much severe, fired jobs, laid off from internships, on unpaid leave from jobs, etc. Excessive sanctions totally out of proportion to the offenses.</p>
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		<title>By: simply as it is</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/15/vlog-proof-pramuk-lied/comment-page-1/#comment-1127</link>
		<dc:creator>simply as it is</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen pointed it out that the students will not be expelled but the reprisals may be community service, writing letter, n etc.

Carl Pramuk was present at the meeting to be on the same page.

He never said the reprisals were dropped.  Watch the video again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen pointed it out that the students will not be expelled but the reprisals may be community service, writing letter, n etc.</p>
<p>Carl Pramuk was present at the meeting to be on the same page.</p>
<p>He never said the reprisals were dropped.  Watch the video again.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my view on Stephen&#039;s statement..he went on about how carl p (who is inside room with BOT) discussing the fate of reprisals.  Seems Stephen is acting in the capacity of a &quot;spokesperson&quot; on his own and reporting what he either saw or what carl P passed on to him?  He did in fact say that there were still issues to be discussed..so no expelling but.....   Pretty tricky if you ask me.  and heck why do we or anyone want to brownnose the BOTS by thanking them?  Stephen should know better..no one is going to thank the BOTS until everything is resolved.  What a mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my view on Stephen&#8217;s statement..he went on about how carl p (who is inside room with BOT) discussing the fate of reprisals.  Seems Stephen is acting in the capacity of a &#8220;spokesperson&#8221; on his own and reporting what he either saw or what carl P passed on to him?  He did in fact say that there were still issues to be discussed..so no expelling but&#8230;..   Pretty tricky if you ask me.  and heck why do we or anyone want to brownnose the BOTS by thanking them?  Stephen should know better..no one is going to thank the BOTS until everything is resolved.  What a mess.</p>
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		<title>By: Mishka Zena</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/15/vlog-proof-pramuk-lied/comment-page-1/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>Mishka Zena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 19:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, Pramuk is the Dean of Student Affairs. Hlibok relayed the message that the reprisals were to be mild, and a lot of people believed him. I thought he was the official representative because he acted like one until Carl S told me no, he wasn&#039;t. Was Hlibok really relaying information from Pramuk as he claimed? That is unclear as of now.

Anon, actually it is very important because incorrect information was permitted to be released. Why? That is a very important question because the Gallaudet Community was sorely misled into thinking the reprisals would be appropriate to the misdemeanors. People need to be accountable if they produce untruthful statements. If you don&#039;t believe in accountablity, that is your problem because the protesters deserve a explanation why they were deceived. Was that a tactic from the beginning?

Â By the way, from what I&#039;ve heard and seen, this had been a peaceful and civil protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, Pramuk is the Dean of Student Affairs. Hlibok relayed the message that the reprisals were to be mild, and a lot of people believed him. I thought he was the official representative because he acted like one until Carl S told me no, he wasn&#8217;t. Was Hlibok really relaying information from Pramuk as he claimed? That is unclear as of now.</p>
<p>Anon, actually it is very important because incorrect information was permitted to be released. Why? That is a very important question because the Gallaudet Community was sorely misled into thinking the reprisals would be appropriate to the misdemeanors. People need to be accountable if they produce untruthful statements. If you don&#8217;t believe in accountablity, that is your problem because the protesters deserve a explanation why they were deceived. Was that a tactic from the beginning?</p>
<p>Â By the way, from what I&#8217;ve heard and seen, this had been a peaceful and civil protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Riley</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/15/vlog-proof-pramuk-lied/comment-page-1/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems quite possible or probable that Pramuk lied to Steve Hlibok so that Steve would say those things on camera or to the media, but in the meantime Pramuk knew that the whole idea about mild reprisals was a lie and that the harsh reprisals would continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems quite possible or probable that Pramuk lied to Steve Hlibok so that Steve would say those things on camera or to the media, but in the meantime Pramuk knew that the whole idea about mild reprisals was a lie and that the harsh reprisals would continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 11:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hlibok don&#039;t owe us a d---thing. He was just doing you a favor by passing on a message from someone else on BoT. So drop your uncivil-protest mentality if you possibly can and leave the poor guy alone. Find someone else to pick on and tear apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hlibok don&#8217;t owe us a d&#8212;thing. He was just doing you a favor by passing on a message from someone else on BoT. So drop your uncivil-protest mentality if you possibly can and leave the poor guy alone. Find someone else to pick on and tear apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #15 (Albert W),

I can understand where you are coming from with being puzzled why we should thank BoT after what they have sickingly damaged the community in many ways. I am certainly sharing the pain with you, however, I feel that no matter what they have done to us in the first place we still need to at least thank them FOR finally coming to their sense, you know? Everyone makes a mistake and everyone deserves to be thanked when having moved up a level with their own life lessons regardless how big the step they take every time they grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #15 (Albert W),</p>
<p>I can understand where you are coming from with being puzzled why we should thank BoT after what they have sickingly damaged the community in many ways. I am certainly sharing the pain with you, however, I feel that no matter what they have done to us in the first place we still need to at least thank them FOR finally coming to their sense, you know? Everyone makes a mistake and everyone deserves to be thanked when having moved up a level with their own life lessons regardless how big the step they take every time they grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert W</title>
		<link>http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/15/vlog-proof-pramuk-lied/comment-page-1/#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking for the explanation from Stephen Hlibok.  So far... NONE.   What was he doing there?   Should have asked T. Plummer, Ryan C, other leaders... not Stephen at all.   Telling us it is okay.. telling us to thank bot members?  giving them hugs?   oh please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking for the explanation from Stephen Hlibok.  So far&#8230; NONE.   What was he doing there?   Should have asked T. Plummer, Ryan C, other leaders&#8230; not Stephen at all.   Telling us it is okay.. telling us to thank bot members?  giving them hugs?   oh please</p>
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