Comments on: MSD Protesters Credits Gallaudet Protest http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 15 Jan 2012 09:35:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: curious http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-861 curious Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:40:01 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-861 Elizabeth-- I posted a response last Friday, but it has not appeared here. Is there a problem? Curious Elizabeth–
I posted a response last Friday, but it has not appeared here. Is there a problem?
Curious

]]> By: LP http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-860 LP Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:43:46 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-860 I have contacted bert case and have not heard back from him yet. I would love to tell all I know! There are better days ahead, though. Sandra Edwards should have been the HS principal starting 3 or 4 years ago, but she is there now and if Hank Bounds will get her good help, the school can change for the better!!! It can be what it needs to be. There have been a lot of nasty things said about MSD, but there are truly some good people there. Some good teachers and some good support staff. i wonder why we are not yet hearing anything about MSD's horrible social worker being fired. That is a whole other subject! I have contacted bert case and have not heard back from him yet. I would love to tell all I know! There are better days ahead, though. Sandra Edwards should have been the HS principal starting 3 or 4 years ago, but she is there now and if Hank Bounds will get her good help, the school can change for the better!!! It can be what it needs to be. There have been a lot of nasty things said about MSD, but there are truly some good people there. Some good teachers and some good support staff. i wonder why we are not yet hearing anything about MSD’s horrible social worker being fired. That is a whole other subject!

]]> By: Mishka Zena http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-859 Mishka Zena Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:53:49 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-859 Selby and LP, can you contact the reporter and fill him in what's really going on? The reporter needs to hear your side, too and, from my conversation with him, he is very motivated to hear from the staff, students, and parents.  The reports of students being punished are disturbing. Are they doing anything to stop the punishments. Fill in the reporter and the parents about these reprisals. The students only wanted to get good education and shouldn't be punished at all. :( Selby and LP, can you contact the reporter and fill him in what’s really going on? The reporter needs to hear your side, too and, from my conversation with him, he is very motivated to hear from the staff, students, and parents.  The reports of students being punished are disturbing. Are they doing anything to stop the punishments. Fill in the reporter and the parents about these reprisals. The students only wanted to get good education and shouldn’t be punished at all. :(

]]> By: MzGallyLadi4lLife http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-858 MzGallyLadi4lLife Thu, 07 Dec 2006 05:13:34 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-858 I was so shocked to hear about what was going on at Mississippi school for the deaf. I was a former student at MSD who graduated in the year of 2001. I am so proud of MSD students who stand up for their right especially with Victoria Monroe, you should be very proud of yourself. It had been going on for years and years. I am very disappointment to hear about Dr. Mack and Harvey but they should know better than that. Man, I can't imagine they do such thing like that. I can't imagine a deaf student in classroom with unqualifed teacher without knowing any sign language at all. This is really frustrated for deaf student to go through all this. I never knew Shirly Williams myself and she never was my teacher before so I can't make any comment about her. I heard that she teached MSD more than 30 years and was a good teacher. To be blunt, when I was student at MSD, there was a lot of racism (especially some African American teacher) and I hate every minute of it. I couldn't stand of listen to them. sometime i wish they will stop talking about them because that they did nothing wrong. I don't have any problem of diversity coming to our deaf school. It will be so nice to have diversity students coming to our deaf school. This is so unfair for teacher to give deaf student a tons of homework due to protest. They have to understand deaf's student's right. They can't punish them for that. If teacher was mad at deaf student because of protest, Sorry,. that I have to say this. I support MSD student 100 percent and I am really glad that this happen. It need to be stop. I believe that all teacher should be fluent in American Sign Language and get their education degree before they interviewed them. Teacher, if u are not qualifed for deaf education, MY BEST ADVICE IS, GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND GET YOUR EDUCATION DEGREE!!!!! Way to go, MSD Student. Ya'll have my support. I love you, ya'll KEEP YOUR SPIRIT UP. I was so shocked to hear about what was going on at Mississippi school for the deaf. I was a former student at MSD who graduated in the year of 2001. I am so proud of MSD students who stand up for their right especially with Victoria Monroe, you should be very proud of yourself. It had been going on for years and years. I am very disappointment to hear about Dr. Mack and Harvey but they should know better than that. Man, I can’t imagine they do such thing like that. I can’t imagine a deaf student in classroom with unqualifed teacher without knowing any sign language at all. This is really frustrated for deaf student to go through all this.

I never knew Shirly Williams myself and she never was my teacher before so I can’t make any comment about her. I heard that she teached MSD more than 30 years and was a good teacher.

To be blunt, when I was student at MSD, there was a lot of racism (especially some African American teacher) and I hate every minute of it. I couldn’t stand of listen to them. sometime i wish they will stop talking about them because that they did nothing wrong. I don’t have any problem of diversity coming to our deaf school. It will be so nice to have diversity students coming to our deaf school.

This is so unfair for teacher to give deaf student a tons of homework due to protest. They have to understand deaf’s student’s right. They can’t punish them for that. If teacher was mad at deaf student because of protest, Sorry,. that I have to say this. I support MSD student 100 percent and I am really glad that this happen. It need to be stop. I believe that all teacher should be fluent in American
Sign Language and get their education degree before they interviewed them. Teacher, if u are not qualifed for deaf education, MY BEST ADVICE IS, GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND GET YOUR EDUCATION DEGREE!!!!!

Way to go, MSD Student. Ya’ll have my support. I love you, ya’ll KEEP YOUR SPIRIT UP.

]]> By: Selby Parker http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-857 Selby Parker Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:15:16 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-857 This is where I got the comment from. It was in the newspaper ( the article above states it clearly): Shirley Williams, who has been working there 31 years, said she didn’t know sign language when she started. After taking several classes, the English teacher said she’s still learning new signs. “If you can find people who are qualified and fluent in sign, I would prefer to hire them first, yes. If you can’t find them, you just can’t do without teachers,” she said. “You can teach without signing. You can write, you can explain. If you’re a good teacher you can get your point over.” Anyway, that comment really bothered me, so that is why I wrote the blog. This is where I got the comment from. It was in the newspaper ( the article above states it clearly):

Shirley Williams, who has been working there 31 years, said she didn’t know sign language when she started.

After taking several classes, the English teacher said she’s still learning new signs.

“If you can find people who are qualified and fluent in sign, I would prefer to hire them first, yes. If you can’t find them, you just can’t do without teachers,” she said. “You can teach without signing. You can write, you can explain. If you’re a good teacher you can get your point over.”

Anyway, that comment really bothered me, so that is why I wrote the blog.

]]> By: LP http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-856 LP Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:53:40 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-856 I was so angry when I read that comment by Shirley Williams. I know Ms. Williams and I know what kind of teacher she is. She is part of the problem at MSD an not a part of the solution. She has been threatening to retire for years and truly should. Her ASL are rudimentary at best. THough she is a pleasant person and not part of the group has been threatening and punishing studnets, she clearly does not understand the educational needs of deaf students. I am so disappointed in her statement to the paper. I was so angry when I read that comment by Shirley Williams. I know Ms. Williams and I know what kind of teacher she is. She is part of the problem at MSD an not a part of the solution. She has been threatening to retire for years and truly should. Her ASL are rudimentary at best. THough she is a pleasant person and not part of the group has been threatening and punishing studnets, she clearly does not understand the educational needs of deaf students. I am so disappointed in her statement to the paper.

]]> By: Mississippi Gal http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-855 Mississippi Gal Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:36:28 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-855 Wow!!!! Advocate...you took the words right out of my mouth (hands??)! Selby must be talking about the comment made by the teacher, Shirley Williams, and her method of teaching. The department of education has never listened to reason when it comes to MSD. They have never had anyone there who understood deaf ed. or the deaf. Dr. Daphne Buckley is the first person that has actually given a crap and listened to staff and students. She was in the process of doing something about the situation, but it got too bad before anything was done, and the students HAD to be heard. They were being mistreated and pressured by hearing teachers--mostly African American--telling them that they needed to have all African American teachers and that signing was not so important. When those teachers realized that the students were not listening to them, the teachers began to threaten and act horrible to them. Since the protest, some of those teachers have taken it upon themselves to "punish" the students for the protest, giving them tons of homework (very unreasonable amounts). The principal is taking care of the situation, but that is the atmosphere that has been at MSD for YEARS!!! MANY HEARIES WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR DEAF AND TRY TO PUSH THEIR WAY ON PEOPLE. The competent people are not recognized for their ideas or input--only the teachers who love to be seen by the world as wonderful people because "they work with the deaf and sign so beautifully, whether it is understood or not. You know the kind I'm talking about. The beautiful thing about this is that the kids can see right through all that and know who the competent teachers are and the ones with ASL skills. Wow!!!! Advocate…you took the words right out of my mouth (hands??)! Selby must be talking about the comment made by the teacher, Shirley Williams, and her method of teaching. The department of education has never listened to reason when it comes to MSD. They have never had anyone there who understood deaf ed. or the deaf. Dr. Daphne Buckley is the first person that has actually given a crap and listened to staff and students. She was in the process of doing something about the situation, but it got too bad before anything was done, and the students HAD to be heard. They were being mistreated and pressured by hearing teachers–mostly African American–telling them that they needed to have all African American teachers and that signing was not so important. When those teachers realized that the students were not listening to them, the teachers began to threaten and act horrible to them. Since the protest, some of those teachers have taken it upon themselves to “punish” the students for the protest, giving them tons of homework (very unreasonable amounts). The principal is taking care of the situation, but that is the atmosphere that has been at MSD for YEARS!!! MANY HEARIES WHO THINK THEY KNOW WHAT’S BEST FOR DEAF AND TRY TO PUSH THEIR WAY ON PEOPLE. The competent people are not recognized for their ideas or input–only the teachers who love to be seen by the world as wonderful people because “they work with the deaf and sign so beautifully, whether it is understood or not. You know the kind I’m talking about. The beautiful thing about this is that the kids can see right through all that and know who the competent teachers are and the ones with ASL skills.

]]> By: Mishka Zena http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-854 Mishka Zena Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:52:01 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-854 Selby, where did you see that comment? How outrageous! I totally agree with you. Some students don't have a good grasp of English so they need sign language to understand the concept being taught. How ridiculous to think written English is sufficient. If so, we don't need to go to the classrooms at all! Yes, these students were very courageous. It had to be a very scary experience for them, but they did it. I'm proud of them, too :) Selby, where did you see that comment? How outrageous! I totally agree with you. Some students don’t have a good grasp of English so they need sign language to understand the concept being taught. How ridiculous to think written English is sufficient. If so, we don’t need to go to the classrooms at all!

Yes, these students were very courageous. It had to be a very scary experience for them, but they did it. I’m proud of them, too :)

]]> By: advocate http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-853 advocate Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:41:47 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-853 It is totally absurd to think you can be a good teacher of the deaf and not be able to sign. Talk about abuse. Why hasn't the department of education looked into this before. This is not new. Thank goodness they have someone now who understands and is trying to do something about it. Shirley Williams is so totally clueless to teaching deaf students. To think she has been there for 31 years and thinks she has done a good job!!!!! How off the point can you be?! For many years deaf people have been looked down on. Hearies have tried to tell them their language isn't right, that Signed Exact English (SEE) is better. Hog wash! American Sign Language (ASL) is a beautiful language and so much easier to understand than any other form of communication created by hearies. ASL was created by deaf people for deaf people. I am so blessed to be exposed to the language! Let's set an example for all and start hiring good communicators to teach deaf students. Language is the basis for all learning. How would you feel if your child was being taught by someone that didn't know their language. How would you like to be taught by the "show and tell" method? Remember that many of these teachers can't even "tell" correctly, using incorrect signs. Enough is enough!!!!!!! It is totally absurd to think you can be a good teacher of the deaf and not be able to sign. Talk about abuse. Why hasn’t the department of education looked into this before. This is not new. Thank goodness they have someone now who understands and is trying to do something about it. Shirley Williams is so totally clueless to teaching deaf students. To think she has been there for 31 years and thinks she has done a good job!!!!! How off the point can you be?! For many years deaf people have been looked down on. Hearies have tried to tell them their language isn’t right, that Signed Exact English (SEE) is better. Hog wash! American Sign Language (ASL) is a beautiful language and so much easier to understand than any other form of communication created by hearies. ASL was created by deaf people for deaf people. I am so blessed to be exposed to the language! Let’s set an example for all and start hiring good communicators to teach deaf students. Language is the basis for all learning. How would you feel if your child was being taught by someone that didn’t know their language. How would you like to be taught by the “show and tell” method? Remember that many of these teachers can’t even “tell” correctly, using incorrect signs. Enough is enough!!!!!!!

]]> By: dana http://www.mishkazena.com/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-852 dana Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:03:16 +0000 http://blog.deafread.com/mishkazena/2006/12/05/msd-protesters-credits-gallaudet-protest/#comment-852 I am so proud of Mississippi School for the Deaf students who are not give up to fight with president of Mississippi School for the Deaf. I am so proud of Mississippi School for the Deaf students who are not give up to fight with president of Mississippi School for the Deaf.

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